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how many five digits numbers can be formed using the digits 0,1,2,3,4,5 so that the numbers are divisible by 6..??

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shreya ·

yeah...i drew that only..

i hve two ways either I choose 5!+4.4! or the subtraction of the two...

look at dis

do tell wat is correct....

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shreya ·

yeah...didnt thought dat way...

this was just da basic thing i should hve thought... combining divisibility of 2 & 3...

thnx

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Lokesh Verma ·

arrey shreya there is nothing new in this..

it is like the intersection of both

divisibility by 2: last digit 2

divisibility by 3: sum of digits divisible by 3...

so the intersection of numbers gives those that are divisible by 6: hence they have to follow both these rules...

BUt the thing is that this wont work in ur method!

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shreya ·

okay...so i would hve to abandon my method...

actually i didnt knew dat for divisibility by 6 we should go for "last digit even and sum of nos divisible by 3"....

kk will go by dis..

n

thankyou!!!

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Lokesh Verma ·

Repeating what i said earlier...

0,1,2,3,4,5

divisibility by 6 needs that the last digit is even and that the sum of digits is divisible by 3..

so the possiblities of divisibility by by 3 is only by leaving out 0 or 3

here in the following case.. i am filling the last digit with either 0 or 2 or 4 ... depending on the case....

Case 1: we leave out 0, the number of ways is : 2.4!

Case 2.1: we leave out 3, and 0 is the last digit, the number of ways is 4!

Case 2.2: we leave out 3 and 0 is not the last digit, the number of ways is 2.3.3!

so the sum is

4!.3+3!.6 = 3!.18= 108

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shreya ·

okay..i accept dat..but den how do u found A∩B?????? [i dont hve x and y...i only hve complete A and B]

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Lokesh Verma ·

i will give u another example..

what is the number of numbers divisible by 5 in the numbers 1-100

and the number of numbers divisible by 2 in 1-100

first one is 20

2nd one is 50

what is the intersection.. *numbers divisible by 10 (right?)

so it is 100/10 = 10

but the difference will give 30.

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Lokesh Verma ·

no this is now wrong...

what i am saying is that the way you are finding the intersection is wrong..

the intersection is not the difference of these two numbers...

A∩B ≠A-B

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shreya ·

for nos divisible by 2
fix 0 at the last place then total ways are 5!
fix 2 at the last place u get 4.4!
fix 4 at the last place u get 4.4!
so total ways for nos divisible by 2 are 5!+2.4.4!

for nos divisible by 3
we hve 2 sets for dis
[1,2,3,4,5] and [0,1,2,4,5]
for Ist set total ways are 5!
for IInd set total ways are 4.4!
so total ways for nos divisible by 3 are 5!+4.4!

and, then, nos divisible by 6 will be the intersection of the two...

wat do u say??
is dis wrong????????

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Lokesh Verma ·

hey shreya.. sorry for that... you just needed to press F5 and then submit...

Anyways...

i am here... and will try to explain to you...

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shreya ·

da site was temporarily disabled!!!!!!i would hve to type dat all again!!!!!!!! dont go away before telling me da solution

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Lokesh Verma ·

did u understand my method shreya???

I think there is a mistake in what u have given...

I cant exactly understand how u got to the numbers that u did....

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shreya ·

so, how should i proceed wid dis ques...?????

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Lokesh Verma ·

(i think u also mean that we can use each digit only once?? I am solving using that assumption...)

0,1,2,3,4,5

divisibility by 6 needs that the last digit is even

and that the sum of digits is divisible by 6..
so only digit that cant be here is 3!!!

so we have to have 2. 4 or 0 as the last digit using the digits 0,1,2,4,5

Now can u solve it?

I went mad again.....

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Lokesh Verma ·

in this image... set A is the divisibles of 2

set B is the divisibles of 3

A=x+y is given by ur first term

B=y+z is given by ur second term...

we need to find y

but u have found A-B = x-z

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Lokesh Verma ·

no shreya this is not the correct method...

think of it in terms of set theory...

draw a venn diagram...

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shreya ·

on subtracting we get 4.4! which is 96

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shreya ·

i lik calculated all da nos divisible by 2 from these digits ans was 5!+8.4!

total nos divisible by 3 were 5!+4.4!

now, i think that these two should be subtracted....

m not sure if i hve done it rite!!

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Lokesh Verma ·

both of us are saying the same thing....

well the intersection is correct.. but how did u get the intersection?

it depends on how u got to the intersection... can i know ur method?

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shreya ·

pls tell me first wat is da divisibility criteria for 6 ..da one i mentioned or da one u r saying?????

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Lokesh Verma ·

(i think u also mean that we can use each digit only once?? I am solving using that assumption...)

0,1,2,3,4,5

divisibility by 6 needs that the last digit is even

and that the sum of digits is divisible by 3..

so the possiblities of chosing the 5 numbers is by leaving out 0 or 3

when we leave out 0, the number of ways is : 2.4!

when we leave out 3, and 0 is the last digit, the number of ways is 4!

when we leave out 3 and 0 is not the last digit, the number of ways is 2.3.3!

so the sum is

4!.3+3!.6 = 3!.18= 108

pls check if i have made more goof ups :)

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shreya ·

m gettin 96...

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shreya ·

so, wat should be da ans????

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Lokesh Verma ·

yes soorry my fault...

it should be a multiple of 3..

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shreya ·

is this the divisibility criteria for 6???????

dont u think that for a no. to be divisible by 6, it should be divisible by 2 and 3....

i calculated all numbers from these digits dividible by 2..... then calculated the same for 3...and took their intersection...is dis wrong????

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