progressions

sum the following to n terms and infinity...
14+1.34.6+1.3.54.6.8 ......
please dont use binomial.....this is a pure progressions sum....

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Shubhodip ·

here is something within the syllabus

just recalled an well-known inequality 0\leq \frac{1}{2}.\frac{3}{4}.\frac{5}{6}\cdots\frac{2n-1}{2n}\leq\frac{1}{\sqrt{3n+1}} (we can prove this by induction)

using above

0\leq \frac{1}{2}.\frac{3}{4}.\frac{5}{6}\cdots\frac{2n-1}{2n}.\frac{2n+1}{2n+2}\leq \frac{1}{\sqrt{3n+4}}

taking \lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} we get what we want..

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fahadnasir nasir ·

nise trail

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Hari Shankar ·

Here's one way at arriving at an upper bound for the expression (as shubhodip had already indicated):

http://www.goiit.com/posts/list/algebra-very-easyyyyy-75119.htm

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Lokesh Verma ·

yup :|

*banging head on the wall*

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Ketan Chandak ·

sir yur statement proves the expression is > than 1n but as n→∞ 1n→0....so it proves that the expression is greater than 0.....

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Lokesh Verma ·

read #9 .. it is very simple

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Ketan Chandak ·

but sir i cudnt have given a better answer keeping the fact in mind dat i havent learnt limits and asymptotic of central binomial coefficient nad stuffs like these.....but i think sir as it is a progressions sum there shud be a simpler way to solve the sum since no one learns limits before progressions....

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Lokesh Verma ·

no it is not ketan.

both numerator and denominator tend to infinity.

but how are we sure that they relation is >>

and >> is a very relative term. it could mean a ratio of 1:10^100 and still not be equal to 0

"maths bhavna nahi jaanta" :P

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Ketan Chandak ·

sir,i know that the logic is not formal but what's wrong in my logic.....
as denomiator>>>numerator the fraction is tending to zero.....

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Lokesh Verma ·

It is like this ketan

2[12(1-34)+1234(1-56)+................]

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Shubhodip ·

here i finish the proof:( proof within syllabus should/may exist and i invite everyone to think of it,cz i am not doing the same right now )

I am going to use asymptotic of central binomial coefficient. We claim

\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\binom{2n}{n} = \sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi}}\frac{4^n}{\sqrt{2n+1}}

Here is an elementary proof.http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/AsymptoticsOfCentralBinomialCoefficient.html This can be obtained by stirling's formula as well.

Follow 1st and 2nd line in my previous post (post 7).

The given expression , using above, becomes \lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{2\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{\pi(2n+1)}} = 0

just learnt this

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Lokesh Verma ·

Eureka?
12=12>
34>23
56>34
78>45

and so on

multiply both sides

u have LHS > 1/n :D

proved

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Lokesh Verma ·

ketan.. that logic will not work!

I was wondering about a formal proof in the class but i could nto thik of one based on JEE syllabus.

infact now that i think even ratio test fails!

@subhodip! no clue buddy!

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Shubhodip ·

may be :

given thing

= \lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{(2n+1)\binom{2n}{n}}{(n+1)4^n}

= \lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{2\binom{2n}{n}}{4^n}

=\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{2\Gamma (n+\frac{1}{2})}{\sqrt{\pi}\Gamma (n+1)}

Isn't it acceptable that --

\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{\Gamma (n+\frac{1}{2})}{\Gamma (n+1)}=0 ??

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Ketan Chandak ·

sir i think it is zero bcoz we find dat the denominator is always greater by 1 of each corresponding term in the numerator...so as the no terms is same as the n is very huge as it is tending to infinity,thus the denominator will be quite large as compared to the numerator....so the fraction will tend to zero.....

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Lokesh Verma ·

A question which i have not been able to prove without root test!!

how are we srue that the thing u typed tends to zero?

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Ketan Chandak ·

it is like:
2[12(1-34)+1.32.4(1-56)+.......]
Breaking the brackets..
2[1.12-1.32.4+1.32.4........]
all the rest terms cancel out nd the last term will be 1.3.5........(2n-1)(2n+1)2.4.6.8.......2n(2n+2)
So Sn=2[12-1.3.5........(2n-1)(2n+1)2.4.6.8.......2n(2n+2)]
If n= ∞
1.3.5........(2n-1)(2n+1)2.4.6.8.......2n(2n+2) will be 0...
so Sn will be 1.....

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Sambit Senapati ·

Ya but how to find the sum of the series?

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