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tanA,tanB,tanc are the roots of the eqn. x3-k2x2-px+2k+1=0,then triangle abc will be a triangle of what nature?explain the ans?

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eureka123 ·

when A+B+C=pi
=> tanA+tanB+tanC=tanA.tanB.tanC

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Asish Mahapatra ·

yes soumya.

ur correct

i should have written

tanA+tan+BtanC = 1. This implies that atleast one in tanA, tanB, tanC is negative but since tanAtanBtanC > 0 so two out of tanA, tanB, tanC is negative which is not possible for any triangle..

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Maths Musing ·

That is what I am trying to say , in acute angled triangles , if tan a , tan b , tan c are all positive , then tan a tan b tan c > 3 . But here we get that tan a tan b tan c > 0 but < 3 . So no triangle is possible.

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eureka123 ·

@akari tanA +tanB +tanC >0

it wont be tanA +tanB +tanC≥0

btw nishnat sir plzz reply....the other day u said my soln was rite...

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eureka123 ·

@soumya...
read post#12 and post#13 before any comments[1]

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Maths Musing ·

The wrong statement is ---

If a + b + c =pi , then tan a tan b tan c >0

take for example the angles 15 , 45 , and 120 . What do you get ? A negative number !!!!

Also in an acute angled triangle , tan a tan b tan c > 3 , not > 0 , so you can't say that

tan a + tan b + tan c = 1 , which you get if you solve k^2 = -2k -1

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eureka123 ·

can anyone tell me whats wrong in my soln ???

1
Maths Musing ·

Ashis has written ---

tan a + tan b + tan c = 1 = tan a tan b tan c

tan a tan b tan c > 3 ( if tan a , tan b , tan c > 0 )

So one and only one of tan a , tan b , tan c is negative.

But that would imply that tan a tan b tan c < 0 , which is not correct

here as it is equal to 1 .

So either two of them are negative , which is not possible for a

triangle , or all of them are positive , which is again not possible as then

tan a tan b tan c > 1

So no such triangle is possible.

The reason that I am quite certain of my soln. , is that this ques. has

come up in one of Edudigm's quadratic practice papers , and the

answer given is no such triangle is possible .

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eureka123 ·

Sir ,,,reached any conclusion ??

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eureka123 ·

proof
tan(A+B+C)=S1-S31-S2
A+B+C=pi
=>tan(A+B+C)=0

=>S1=S3

=> tanA+tanB+tanC=tanA.tanB.tanC

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eureka123 ·

tanA+tanB+tanC>0

since A+B+C=pi
=> tanA.tanB.tanC >0

SO 2 cases come
a) Tow factors negative and one factor positive
b) All three factors postive

but tan takes negative value when pi>angle >pi/2 which is not possible (two angles cant be obtuse)
=> case a) rejected

=> all three factors positve

=> A,B,C <Ï€/2

=> acute

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Lokesh Verma ·

since A+B+C=pi
=> tanA.tanB.tanC >0

how is this conclusion?

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eureka123 ·

whats the mistake in my soln??
I am very eager to know it...

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Lokesh Verma ·

asish is right..

sorry i goofed up in another post.. din see the solution completely but pinked it after a couple of steps :(

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Asish Mahapatra ·

k2 = -2k-1
=> (k+1)2 = 0
=> k = -1

so tanA + tanB + tanC = 1 = tanAtanBtanC

tanA +tanB+tanC ≥ 3 (iff tanA, tanB, tanC >0 )

but this is impossible

so one and only one of tanA, tanB and tanC is negative

so the triangle is obtuse

edit: courtesy soumya:
tanA+tan+BtanC = 1. This implies that atleast one in tanA, tanB, tanC is negative but since tanAtanBtanC > 0 so two out of tanA, tanB, tanC is negative which is not possible for any triangle..

so no triangle possible

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Hari Shankar ·

Shouldnt tan A + tan B + tan C = tan A tan B tan C for a triangle

But that would mean k2+1 = 0 here!

edit: thought i was goofing there

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eureka123 ·

hehe,,,ya,,,corrected now..

this is what happens when u reply after a looong time[3]

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arpan sinha ·

ya...
@ eureka
tan is negative in 2nd & 4th quadrants.

24
eureka123 ·

yes

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Asish Mahapatra ·

tan takes negative value when angle >pi

tan is negative when angle is in 2nd quad.

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