Solve this set of equations..

First look this might seem an olympiad problem that may scare some of you...

but try this problem to get an insight on how to solve such problems...

x+y+z = w

1/x + 1/y + 1/z = 1/w

Solve for x, y and z... (Not that you have to find x=1, y=2 , z=3) (Give the answer for real solutions in parametric form)

PS: all you need to do is look at the equation carefully..

25 Answers

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Lokesh Verma ·

@Prophet sir: [1] (I hope others dont pick the hint ;)

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Lokesh Verma ·

yes so if y+z=0,

what is xy+yz+zx = x(y+z) + yz

= 0 + y.(-y) = -y2

[1]

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Lokesh Verma ·

can you complete the y and z part.. there is a slight bit remaining there..

I have given a pink because this much is really good

Infact awesome [1]

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xYz ·

x+y+z=w ='a'
(xy+yz+zx)a=xyz
let (xy+yz+zx)='b'
xyz='c'
ab=c
x,y,z are roots of equation
t3-at2+bt-c=0
t2(t-a)+b(t-a)=0
(t-a)(t2+b)=0
so
x=a,y=-z;(real root)
or
(t-a)(t-i√b)(t+i√b)=0
x=a;y=i√b,z=-i√b

62
Lokesh Verma ·

Now there is another method.. (a way to think..)

infact 2 more.. one is prophet sir's approach.. another is mine.. . soumik has factorized it.. but is the factorisation even simpler?

1
Philip Calvert ·

oh ! I thought this Soumik has answered.. is anything left to be done ??

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Lokesh Verma ·

Well this one is getting carried for too long.. :(

try this...

Can we show that

xyz=(x+y+z)(xy+yz+zx)??

Now what?

1
Rohan Ghosh ·

oops yes i didnt read the ques properly it has asked for all soutions ..

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Hari Shankar ·

while that does give infinitely many solutions, it does not tell us we have exhausted all possibilities

1
Rohan Ghosh ·

hey guys .. why dont you just put y=-z and x=w ???!! then you fill find out that there are really infinite solutions :P

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Devil ·

I don't see anything of this.....
Only thing I see is \boxed{(x+y)(y+z)(z+x)=0}
Done! [1]

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Lokesh Verma ·

It seems no one has...

This is something everyone knows.. but doesn't know the name..

Can someone see a polynomial? *(btw when I gave the question I had a different proof in mind)

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Dr.House ·

is it so that nobody has picked the hint?? i have picked it up...

62
Lokesh Verma ·

oops.. you deleted ur post :P

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Hari Shankar ·

i am going to annoy nishant sir and give a hint: Francois Viete

341
Hari Shankar ·

"hajaar" of them

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fibonacci ·

@theprophet sir are there any real solutions?

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Asish Mahapatra ·

so, sir we have to find all real solutions in parametric form. ? then my steps till now are correct

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Lokesh Verma ·

Yes.. I did mean that it has to be found in a parametric form (but din want to give that away..)

I should have used the phrase "Find all real solutions"

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Asish Mahapatra ·

hmm ok sir ill try

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Asish Mahapatra ·

CASE II. All negative solutions

Then in this case too we can replace x,y,z,w with -a,-b,-c,-d where a,b,c,d > 0 and apply AM-HM and reach at the same contradiction

Hence no all negative solutions

So there remain two more cases, 2 negative one positive and 1 negative two positive.

thinking abt them

341
Hari Shankar ·

@fibonacci - there are infinitely many solutions. Perhaps Nishant sir meant you can express them in some parametric form

341
Hari Shankar ·

u shudnt assume they r real, let alone that they are +ve

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Asish Mahapatra ·

USING AM-HM

(x+y+z)(1/x+1/y+1/z) > 9

=> w.1/w > 9

=> 1 > 9

which is a contradiction

So, there is no positive value of x,y,z for which this is possible

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fibonacci ·

is the answer no soln?

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