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Hari Shankar
·2009-12-07 05:09:34
another way of looking at it is that in terms of AM-GM.
You know that AM=GM when the numbers are equal.
Here as x→∞, each of the terms tends to each other.
So
\sqrt [5] {(x-1)(x-2)(x+3)(x+5)(x+10)} ≈
\frac{(x-1)+(x-2)+(x+3)+(x+5)+(x+10)}{5} = x+3
Hence the limit is 3
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Che
·2009-12-07 07:42:42
these r from Maths musings....that come in mathematics today
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-12-07 07:41:39
where did you get this from?
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Che
·2009-12-07 07:41:05
actually i don hav the answers for these q[2]....so cant tell wats the right ans
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-12-07 07:38:40
btw is this the right answer?
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-12-07 07:38:21
i read it long time back...
probably in DM Berton (I dont even remember the spelling of the author :P)
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Che
·2009-12-07 07:37:06
a dumb question--how u got that form of pythagorean triplets
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-12-07 07:25:22
for the first question use the fact that
pythagorean triplets are of the form
2x^2+2x, 2x+1 \text{ and } 2x^2+2x+1
and constant multiples of these ...
also you can show that this x used above is equal to inradius :)
so you are simply looking at the number of factors of 2008
:)
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Che
·2009-12-07 06:21:05
any takers for first q [1]
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sakshi pandey pandey
·2009-12-07 05:33:07
thankz nishant bhaiyya & hari sir.............................now i got it............
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Che
·2009-12-07 05:23:06
well neva thought of applying am=gm here.......that jus solve the prob in 2 steps...
but nishant sir where u think der is prob applying that[1]
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-12-07 05:12:26
Prophet sir, I Have my reservations in saying that the numbers are equal near infinity..
I think a better way to say that would be to take x common and then use the same logic on the numbers
1-1/x, 1-2/x, 1+3/x, 1+5/x and 1+10/x
am I being uselessly cautious?
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Che
·2009-12-07 04:56:12
btw any hint for the first one bhaiya[1]
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Che
·2009-12-07 04:50:17
oh yeah we hav to only find coeeficient of x4 in that.....actully that thing was trubling since i thouoght multiplying a hole lot of five things will be quiet a big task....
thnx a lot [1]
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-12-07 04:44:25
yup that is correct
so this expression will reduce to
\left[x^5+15x^4+ax^3+bx^2+cx+d \right]^{1/5}-x
Here, a, b and c are things we are not concerned about and hence are not finding out...
Now take x common
and use the approximation (1+x)1/n = 1+x/n+... higher terms of x..
\\=x\left[ \left[1+15/x+a/x^2+b/x^3+c/x^4+d/x^5 \right]^{1/5}-1\right] \\=x\left[ 1+\left( 15/x+a/x^2+b/x^3+c/x^4+d/x^5\right)/5-1\right] \\=x\left[ \left( 3/x+a/5x^2+b/5x^3+c/5x^4+d/5x^5\right)\right]
which tends to 3 when x goes to infinity
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Che
·2009-12-07 04:40:45
i got ur hint but cudnt get how to apply in this q[2]....i mean do we hav to then multiply all (x-1)(x-2)..... to get a form of ax5 + bx4.........to get a form of
5√(ax5 + bx4.........) -x....
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-12-07 04:21:27
see as a hint
what is the limit when n tends to infinity of
\\\sqrt{x^2+ax+b}-x \\=x\left[\sqrt{1+a/x+b/x^2}-1 \right] \\=x\left[(1+a/2x+b/2x^2)-1 \right]
= a/2
The above holds because √1+t ≈ 1+t/2 when t is very small...
Or otherwise rationalize it...
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Che
·2009-12-07 04:15:13
yup that was my doubt :)
if i wud hav given it as a challenge...i wud hav metioned that its not my doubt[1]
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-12-07 04:12:26
oh it was your doubt?!!
I thought you gave this one for the others..
we have discussed 2 questions on this one..
one was for 4 terms instead of 5 and one was for general n
For general n, i think the proof was given by Kaymant sir.. anyways the idea remains the same Let me try and post it
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-12-07 04:05:08
no madhu..
this one was solved long back..
the answer is (-1-2+3+5+10)/5 = 3
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sakshi pandey pandey
·2009-12-07 03:57:56
is the ans zero?.........................for 2nd ques
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Che
·2009-12-06 23:01:23
u talking abt that mathlinks one.....hehehe....yeah