some more q

1) find the no of right angled triangle with integer sides and inradius 2008

2) evalute this limit
\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty }((x-1)(x-2)(x+3)(x+5)(x+10))^{1/5}-x

25 Answers

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Hari Shankar ·

another way of looking at it is that in terms of AM-GM.

You know that AM=GM when the numbers are equal.

Here as x→∞, each of the terms tends to each other.

So

\sqrt [5] {(x-1)(x-2)(x+3)(x+5)(x+10)} ≈

\frac{(x-1)+(x-2)+(x+3)+(x+5)+(x+10)}{5} = x+3

Hence the limit is 3

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Lokesh Verma ·

hmm.. okie...

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Che ·

these r from Maths musings....that come in mathematics today

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Lokesh Verma ·

where did you get this from?

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Che ·

actually i don hav the answers for these q[2]....so cant tell wats the right ans

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Lokesh Verma ·

btw is this the right answer?

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Lokesh Verma ·

i read it long time back...
probably in DM Berton (I dont even remember the spelling of the author :P)

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Che ·

a dumb question--how u got that form of pythagorean triplets

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Lokesh Verma ·

for the first question use the fact that

pythagorean triplets are of the form

2x^2+2x, 2x+1 \text{ and } 2x^2+2x+1

and constant multiples of these ...

also you can show that this x used above is equal to inradius :)

so you are simply looking at the number of factors of 2008

:)

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Che ·

any takers for first q [1]

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sakshi pandey pandey ·

thankz nishant bhaiyya & hari sir.............................now i got it............

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Che ·

well neva thought of applying am=gm here.......that jus solve the prob in 2 steps...

but nishant sir where u think der is prob applying that[1]

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Lokesh Verma ·

Prophet sir, I Have my reservations in saying that the numbers are equal near infinity..

I think a better way to say that would be to take x common and then use the same logic on the numbers

1-1/x, 1-2/x, 1+3/x, 1+5/x and 1+10/x

am I being uselessly cautious?

341
Hari Shankar ·

as in grijnberg? :D

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Che ·

btw any hint for the first one bhaiya[1]

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Che ·

oh yeah we hav to only find coeeficient of x4 in that.....actully that thing was trubling since i thouoght multiplying a hole lot of five things will be quiet a big task....

thnx a lot [1]

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Lokesh Verma ·

yup that is correct

so this expression will reduce to

\left[x^5+15x^4+ax^3+bx^2+cx+d \right]^{1/5}-x

Here, a, b and c are things we are not concerned about and hence are not finding out...

Now take x common

and use the approximation (1+x)1/n = 1+x/n+... higher terms of x..

\\=x\left[ \left[1+15/x+a/x^2+b/x^3+c/x^4+d/x^5 \right]^{1/5}-1\right] \\=x\left[ 1+\left( 15/x+a/x^2+b/x^3+c/x^4+d/x^5\right)/5-1\right] \\=x\left[ \left( 3/x+a/5x^2+b/5x^3+c/5x^4+d/5x^5\right)\right]

which tends to 3 when x goes to infinity

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Che ·

i got ur hint but cudnt get how to apply in this q[2]....i mean do we hav to then multiply all (x-1)(x-2)..... to get a form of ax5 + bx4.........to get a form of
5√(ax5 + bx4.........) -x....

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Lokesh Verma ·

see as a hint

what is the limit when n tends to infinity of

\\\sqrt{x^2+ax+b}-x \\=x\left[\sqrt{1+a/x+b/x^2}-1 \right] \\=x\left[(1+a/2x+b/2x^2)-1 \right]

= a/2

The above holds because √1+t ≈ 1+t/2 when t is very small...

Or otherwise rationalize it...

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Che ·

yup that was my doubt :)

if i wud hav given it as a challenge...i wud hav metioned that its not my doubt[1]

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Lokesh Verma ·

oh it was your doubt?!!
I thought you gave this one for the others..
we have discussed 2 questions on this one..
one was for 4 terms instead of 5 and one was for general n

For general n, i think the proof was given by Kaymant sir.. anyways the idea remains the same Let me try and post it

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Che ·

how u got that bhaiya :)

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Lokesh Verma ·

no madhu..

this one was solved long back..

the answer is (-1-2+3+5+10)/5 = 3

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sakshi pandey pandey ·

is the ans zero?.........................for 2nd ques

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Che ·

u talking abt that mathlinks one.....hehehe....yeah

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