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mkagenius
·2009-01-23 08:20:28
FOR -VE SLOPE GRAPHS U CAN USE FOLLOWING FORMULA------
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∫f-1(x)dx=∫f(x)dx + af(a)-bf(b).
but i would suggest simply draw the graph(even roughly) to see what is required
to be done.
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-09-15 06:36:24
The explanaiton of this thing is that The integral gives the algebriac sum.. which means one area is -ve in magnitude :)
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mkagenius
·2009-01-24 20:44:42
i m still on my answer...
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mkagenius
·2009-01-23 10:48:17
thik hai dost kal discussiayenge isko...:)(agar mere dost ne mere ko lappy use karne di toh..:))
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Abhishek Priyam
·2009-01-23 10:43:09
aj jaane do...
kal tak jo galat hai dono me uska dimag khul jaega...
kal discuss karenge isko..
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mkagenius
·2009-01-23 10:38:32
hey abhishek u used the eqn:y=(x-2)2
tell me what was in lhs?
and rhs?
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Abhishek Priyam
·2009-01-23 10:36:20
its not always what it looks from outside..
rectangles and squares can do wonders... :P
Nishant Bhaiya look here which is r8 before tiit war 1 broke out :P
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mkagenius
·2009-01-23 10:34:22
NISHANT BHAIYA ... plz....GIVE SOME EXPLANATION......
OTHERWISE CAN U TELL ME OR POST ME HOW TO MAKE WEBSITES AND HOW DU U
ARRANGE FOR IT MY ID : mkagenius@gmail.com
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mkagenius
·2009-01-23 10:31:02
i think mine is correct;
one more reason:
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UR LHS IS INTEGRATION OF FUNCTIONS ;
BUT RHS IS ONLY ADDITION AND SUBTRACTION OF RECTANGULAR AREAS;
HOW CAN THIS B POSSIBLE.
POINT OUT IF I 'M MISSING ANY POINT....
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Abhishek Priyam
·2009-01-23 10:19:00
:D
pink is removed...
but which one is right...
i vote for mine :) thats why i designed my post ... [1]
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mkagenius
·2009-01-23 10:14:34
nishant bhaiya...
u have pinked both of ours post ,
adding the two gives: 2∫f-1(x)dx=4af(b)-bf(a)-bf(b).
now u will pink this 1 too...i guess
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Abhishek Priyam
·2009-01-23 10:03:20
Checked that for y=(x-2)2 from 1 to 2.......
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Abhishek Priyam
·2009-01-23 09:59:33
checked it....
thats what i am getting.
May be i have got a mind block in this...
u try with a simple example ...
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mkagenius
·2009-01-23 09:55:55
af(b) has no significance in sum of LHS.
But in the RHS it does not get cancelled.
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mkagenius
·2009-01-23 09:53:42
i think thats incorrect.
can u check it again....
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Abhishek Priyam
·2009-01-23 09:49:05
yes doing frm basic in such quesions is far better but then also..
i am getting this for f'(x)<0
f(a)∫f(b) f-1(x) dx +a∫b f(x) dx = 4af(b)-bf(a)-af(a)
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Anirudh Narayanan
·2009-01-21 01:23:22
Will the fact that the functions are inverses of each other help?
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Abhishek Priyam
·2009-01-23 04:46:32

purple area is added twice when ∫f(x)+∫f-1(x)
:)
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Abhishek Priyam
·2009-01-23 04:43:52
But i got some thing by drawing the fig.. :(
Ok let me recheck it..
:)
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Hari Shankar
·2009-01-23 04:39:32
ya sorry. the limits are f(a) and f(b). But i dont get what the sign of f'(x) has got to do with it?
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Abhishek Priyam
·2009-01-23 00:22:51
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Plz check it..
for f'(x)≤0 where f'(x)=0 at discrete points..
f(a)∫f(b) f-1(x) dx +a∫b f(x) dx = 4af(b)-bf(a)-af(a)
b>a
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Abhishek Priyam
·2009-01-23 00:21:09
But it should be this naa? may be a typing error...
f(a)∫f(b) f-1(x) dx +a∫b f(x) dx = b f(b) - a f(a)
for f'(x)≥0... where f'(x)=0 at discrete points and for f'(x)≤0 i think it should be different.. i am trying that..
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Abhishek Priyam
·2009-01-22 23:19:15
a∫b f-1(x) dx +a∫b f(x) dx = b f(b) - a f(a)
is true for f'(x)≥0... [7]
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aatmanvora
·2009-01-21 07:07:52
all the things wat da above ppl. hav said is correct!!!
BUt i did it this way
assume √lnx as t;
U'll c dat on simplifcatn it turns out 2 b same as 1∫2 e^x2 dx
correct me if i'm wrong
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Hari Shankar
·2009-01-21 05:52:36
Analytically you can use this result
a∫b f-1(x) dx +a∫b f(x) dx = b f(b) - a f(a)
Proof: In the first integral let x = f(t). Then f-1 f(x) = t
and dx = f'(t) dt
So now the integral is
a∫b tf'(t) dt + a∫b f(t) dt
= |tf(t)|ab - a∫b f(t) dt+a∫b f(t) dt
=bf(b) - a f(a)
So, now its easy to see that the answer is 2e4-e-a
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-01-21 05:23:58
I think this is correct...
Good work
AA=2e4 is the area from origin to the furthermost point
AB=e is the area of the origin to the first(closest) point
Then there is A1=a
A2 we need to find...
AA=AB+A1+A2
The figure below is for a general graph and not for this particular function....

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Lokesh Verma
·2009-01-21 04:57:31
aragon it will matter a lot..
if you could think this far.. then you should be able to nail this one.... :)
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Abhishek Priyam
·2009-01-21 03:26:07
First try with simpler functions..
may be..