i also have the same dbt asish.i am waiting for a reply.
lim x→0 (1cosec2x+2cosec2x+3cosec2x+....Ncosec2x)sin2x=?????
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@ bhatt sir
didnt get the first step of ur solution [2][2]
can u explain it ???
manipal: see this
lim(x-->0) (sinx+2x)/x
How can u divide by x (x-->0) and say that it is 1+2=3??
same way here. ive just divided by an expression
or see this
lim(x→∞) x2+2x2x2+1 = lim(x→∞) 1+2/x2+1/x2 = 1/2
How can we divide by x2 as x-->∞ ??
@ashish
lim(x→0) (1cosec2x+2cosec2x+...+ncosec2x)sin2x
= ncosec2xsin2x[(1/n)cosec2x+(2/n)cosec2x+....+1]sin2x
= n[(1/n)cosec2x+(2/n)cosec2x+....+1]sin2x
= n (as r/n < 1 and hence (r/n)∞→0)(further as n does not tend to ∞, so we dont have (→0)infinite no. of times. so all the terms can be assumed to be zero)
how could u divide by ncosec2x when x->0
nopes... see (N-1)/N < 1
(any number less than 1)∞ →0 isnt it?
arent we complicating this problem?
i mean as asish say, take out Ncosec2x out of the bracket, to have
N*(1+(N-1/N)^cosec2x+.....)sin2x
=N rite.
manipal: ur approach is wrong
logy=sin2x log(N!)cosec2x yahi wrong hai.
lim(x→0) (1cosec2x+2cosec2x+...+ncosec2x)sin2x
= ncosec2xsin2x[(1/n)cosec2x+(2/n)cosec2x+....+1]sin2x
= n[(1/n)cosec2x+(2/n)cosec2x+....+1]sin2x
= n (as r/n < 1 and hence (r/n)∞→0)(further as n does not tend to ∞, so we dont have (→0)infinite no. of times. so all the terms can be assumed to be zero)
PLEASE DUNNO RELY ON THIS ONE AND DO CHECK FOR CONFORMATION[3]
lim x→0 (1cosec2x+2cosec2x+3cosec2x+....Ncosec2x)sin2x=y
then
logy=sin2x log(N!)cosec2x
log(logy)=log(logN!)
y=N!
This idea came randomly in my mind
please excuse me if i am wrong and sum1 pls solve this 1
This question is pondering me now[2]
N [ (1/N)^COSEC^2 X + 2/ ............................+1]^SIN^2 X .....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we know ...1/n is less than 1 and ... cosec thingi tends to infinity as x -->0 !!!!!!
so all those become 0 .......... except the 1 ..... so we get 1 *N =N ......
SRY IF RONG ...
ok sir thanx for pointing the mistake.ive deleted that post to prevent further confusion.
Sandwich Principle can easily settle this:
We have
1< 1^{\csc^2 x} + \left(\frac{1}{N} \right)^ {\csc^2 x} + \left(\frac{2}{N} \right)^ {\csc^2 x}+...+ \left(\frac{N-1}{N} \right)^ {\csc^2 x}< N
so that
1^{\sin^2 x}< \left(1^{\csc^2 x} + \left(\frac{1}{N} \right)^ {\csc^2 x} + ...+ \left(\frac{N-1}{N} \right)^ {\csc^2 x} \right)^{\sin^2 x} < N^{\sin^2 x}
Now take limits as x→0
Note: Here RHS bound we have taken is pretty weak, but it works just fine.
But, we can improve the bounds by saying
1^{\csc^2 x} + \left(\frac{1}{N} \right)^ {\csc^2 x} + ...+ \left(\frac{N-1}{N} \right)^ {\csc^2 x}< \frac{1}{N} + \frac{2}{N}+...+\frac{N}{N}
or further
1^{\csc^2 x} + \left(\frac{1}{N} \right)^ {\csc^2 x} + ...+ \left(\frac{N-1}{N} \right)^ {\csc^2 x}< \frac{1}{N^2} \left(1^2+2^2 + ...+N^2 \right)
and so on.
We get RHS<(N+1)/2 in the 1st case which is a better bound than N
When we choose squares, we get N(N+1)(2N+1)/6N2 which is a further improvement over (N+1)/2.
This could prove useful somewhere.
I dont think that is perfectly correct..
because it is of the form zero to the power zero..
that is not necessarily zero...
I DUNNO THE ANS AND ALSO WE CANT DO LIKE THIS SOMETIMES IT LEAD TO US A WRONG ANS.