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If f:[0,1]→[0,1] be a continuous function such that f(f(x))=1 for all x in[0,1]. Find all possible values of ∫f(x) dx with 0 to 1 as limits of integration

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Hari Shankar ·

3/4?

how on earth do you get these crafty probs? Do you mind revealing the source?

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kunl ·

@prophet sir
Harvard

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Hari Shankar ·

you are right. i only referred to the lower bound. The max is of course 1.

@kunl - i didnt get the Harvard reference. Could you be more specific? Are you referring to the Harvard-MIT tournament? The AOPS site only has the 2008 tournament, and that did not feature this prob

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Ricky ·

The maximum value of " f " is " 1 " , hence , it's evident that ,

0∫1 f ( x ) dx ≤ 0∫1 1 dx ≤ 1 ......... [ 1 ]

Since " 1 " is attainable by " f " , and " f ( f ( x ) ) = 1 " ;

f ( 1 ) = 1 ............. [ 2 ]

Let " m " be the smallest value of " f " . , so that ,

f ( m ) = 1 ............. [ 3 ]

Now ,

0∫1 f ( x ) dx

= 0∫m f ( x ) dx + m∫1 f ( x ) dx

= 0∫m f ( x ) dx + 1 - m...............( combining [ 2 ] and [ 3 ] )

> m ( m - 0 ) + 1 - m

> m 2 - m + 1

> ( m - 12 ) 2 + 34 > 34 ................... [ 4 ]

From [ 1 ] and [ 4 ] , we get the answer .

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Hari Shankar ·

Solution:(a lil more complete)

Let R be the range of f, with R being a subset of [0,1]

If x ε R, then f(x)=1.

Since f is a continuous function defined over a closed interval, we have

0≤m≤f(x)≤M≤1, i.e. it attains both its max and min. Here obviously M=1.

Further, f attains all values between m and 1.

Hence for 0≤m≤x≤1, we have f(x)=1.

Therefore 0∫1f(x) dx = 0∫mf(x) dx+m∫1f(x) dx

= 0∫mf(x) dx + 1-m

Now we have by the well known inequality that

m(m-0)≤0∫mf(x) dx≤1(m-0)

So that m2-m+1≤0∫1f(x) dx≤1

We further have m2-m+1≥3/4 with equality when m=1/2

Now, here we note that since f is continuous, the left bound is never attained, though it can be brought as close as we please. Drawing a graph of this function can help see why this is true. A function that is almost asymptotically equal to 1 at x=m, will have the value of the integral close to m2-m+1.

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samagra Kr ·

thank Q

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samagra Kr ·

how 0≤m≤x≤1, f(x)=1 ???????

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Hari Shankar ·

If R is the range of f, then f(f(x))=1 means that f(R)=1.

Now, if you set aside that f is continuous, then you will imagine that if R is some set of points in [0,1], then at all these points the value of f is 1.

The fact that f is continuous simplifies things by making this set of points a closed interval. This is because:

(a) a continuous function in a closed interval is bounded above and below and in fact attains those bounds. Call these two bounds as m and M. Here since 1 ε R, we simply have M=1

(b) Further, by Mean Value Theorem, the range will consist of every value between m and 1.

That means R =[m,1]

Then as a corollary we have that for all x \in [m,1], f(x)=1

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samagra Kr ·

okay.

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kunl ·

@prophet sir
http://web.mit.edu/hmmt/www/datafiles/

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Shubhodip ·

thnx for the link..

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