SHM

system shown of mass m is displaced in its plane by a small angle θ, find the period of oscillation I wud essentuially want to know the approach to this type of questions? ANS : 2Ï€√2(√2)l/3g

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Vivek ·

sinθ=θ for small angles

l/2√2 for distance between centres of mass and inertia

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avni ·

thats true,
ya its given "SMALL" angle.

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

Tell me one thing avni is this thing handing from something or is it rotated about the dark point you have on the top?

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avni ·

it is balanced on a nail

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

Avni its tough since you will have to find the moment of Inertia of the object.
I donot know how to find th MOI of this object

1
avni ·

simple addition karo na.

I = ML2/3

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

how did it come to 2√2L i am just getting L

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avni ·

how do i know?

its the crct ans. i 2 dont know how

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

How did you get that MOI pls explain there has to be a change in MOI for the ans to change?

Pls tell me the way you found the MOI

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Dr.House ·

they are at perpendicular to each other. use perpendicular axis theorem

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

Ans: - 2∩√(4L/3g)

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Vivek ·

use torque reln

Iα = (mgl/2√2)θ (For small angles)

Substitute I = 1/3ML2

and u'll get ur answer

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avni ·

@vivek : "Iα = (mgl/√2)θ"

isme θ kyun aaya??

can u pl. xplain a lil i detail I need help in this topic pl. pl. pl. pl.

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avni ·

and the mass given M is for the entire system huh....

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

Why is √2 present pls explain

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

It will be a SHM only and only if the θ is small

1
avni ·

OH K!!!!

but hey can u pl. take it frm here on to gettin da time period, coz as i told I m bad at SHM

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Vivek ·

compare torque eqn with α=-ω2θ

u will get ω from here
then,T = 2π/ω

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Lokesh Verma ·

Avni..

Have you tried the energy method..?

Trust me it makes life much much much simpler most of the times...

Try doing that! :)

It takes away some understanding of physics though.. But it is good for exams.

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avni ·

Sir,
Can u pl. qoute the Energy method approach here!
Actually I m dying for an easy meth in SHM coz I hav struggling in this topic.

Ur help wud b invaluable, if I get a hand over this topic i can fancy my JEE chances.

Pl. Help

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Abhishek Priyam ·

par isme force wala hi jada easy hai...

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avni ·

Onne doubt in vivek's meth,
sorry 2

1) while equatin torque on RHS how dus the factor of θ or sinθ cum??

2) α=ω2θ?? (pehle to kabhi nahi suna tha [2] )

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Abhishek Priyam ·

For 2nd doubt.. first..

a=-ω2x hota hai naa... isi ka nakal hai for rotational motion...

Find α(bhai of 'acceleration in displacement') by simple rotation concept... if its proportionla of θ(bhai of 'x in displacement'..)
then it is SHM.. t=2pi/ω

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Abhishek Priyam ·

For 1st just posting..

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avni ·

sahi hai, SORRY first dbt was a blunder on my part,

awaitin 4 1st dbt

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Abhishek Priyam ·

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Abhishek Priyam ·

COM is wrong in vivek...

its l/2√2

m/2 is mass of one rod..
moi=\frac{2}{3}\frac{m}{2}l^{2}

torque=mgsinθl/2√2

Iα=mgsinθl/2√2
\frac{2}{3}\frac{m}{2}l^{2}α=mgsin\theta \frac{l}{2\sqrt{2}}

now as θ is very very samll therfore sinθ=θ
\frac{2}{3}\frac{m}{2}l^{2}α=mg\theta \frac{l}{2\sqrt{2}}

ab thik hai... :)

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Abhishek Priyam ·

that center line is imaginary..(rod like thing..to consider COM)

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avni ·

THANX PRIYAM!!!

but can u pl. tell how did u get OP?

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Abhishek Priyam ·

ok 1 sec...i will ask sky to do that.. nahi to khud kar denge.. :P

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