21-04-09

{x} = sin [x]

32 Answers

9
Celestine preetham ·

ok its a kind of implicit

62
Lokesh Verma ·

yes perfect celestine..

so it gives a contradiction to our assumption that

[x]=n

9
Celestine preetham ·

if sin n is negative [n+sin n]=n-1

11
Mani Pal Singh ·

it is because of the fact that {-x}=1-{x}

62
Lokesh Verma ·

see the answre is

n+sin n (for all integers n such that sin n is positive. )

If sin n is -ve there will be no solution... :)

Can you reason out why the above is true.

9
Celestine preetham ·

hmm post 13 still pinked ?

nishant sir see #17

also even when positive can u guarentee [n + sin n] =n ???

what if sin n is negative

1
palani ............... ·

found some solns
sin n +n

0,
1.84,
2.909,
3.14,
etc........

if x lies b/w(2n\pi ,(2n+1)\pi )
den
der would be 3 soln for every value of n
in d other region sin x<0 no soln

11
Mani Pal Singh ·

thats y the disscussion is goin on
TO FIND A SEQUENCE
nishant sir thinks (have ) a sequence
but we don't think so

check whether u may prove to be useful

1
palani ............... ·

i dont think so d soln. is in any sequence

11
Mani Pal Singh ·

but how will u find a solution[12][12][12]

1
palani ............... ·

just consider LHS &RHS seperate function &superimpose dem

werever both d functions intersect they bcomz d soln

y=\begin{Bmatrix} x \end{Bmatrix}

z=sin[x]

den plot dem

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a little more in nxt post

9
Celestine preetham ·

this q isnt solvable dont worry !!!!

11
Mani Pal Singh ·

yup its not thateasy
its a gr8 headache 4 me !!!!!!!!1

9
Celestine preetham ·

its not n+ sinn chk for -1

also theres a lot of other things nishant bhaiyya has overlooked

1
Philip Calvert ·

! he's gone offline [2]
celestine what do u say

1
Philip Calvert ·

bhaiyya
what about n = 6 in
n+sin n

LHS is positive RHS is negative !

11
Anirudh Narayanan ·

hmmm a bit confusing

9
Celestine preetham ·

i dont agree see when n is negative

62
Lokesh Verma ·

yes celestine

the graph will be lines parallel to the y axis passing thru the points

n+ sin n

9
Celestine preetham ·

byah is there a graph ?? see abv post

also i know the solutions

1
Philip Calvert ·

yes
n +sin n
exactly

especially bcos sin(n) will never belong to N

62
Lokesh Verma ·

yes celestine

In the hind sight it should not have been on the graph of the day...

And yeah philip the answer is quite straight forward

x = n+ sin (n) for all integers n :)

1
Philip Calvert ·

i think its quite straightforward !

sin 2 = 0.034899496702500971645995181625333

so x = 2.034899496702500971645995181625333

similarly
for all further values
i dont know how to do without a calc

ofcourse we have to neglect places where sin goes -ive

11
Anirudh Narayanan ·

celestine, the graph will be of the form x=k.....lines parallel to the y-axis

9
Celestine preetham ·

why is this posted in Graph of the day ???

we cant draw graphs out of abv question as y is not invlolved

btw do u want us to find the solutions of x ??

62
Lokesh Verma ·

loll

you guys have been stumped on this simplest(?) graph

11
Anirudh Narayanan ·

any value of [x] will be an integer.....so?

62
Lokesh Verma ·

Hint: take any value of [x]

11
Mani Pal Singh ·

Notice that RHS and LHS are independent of each other! (Or are they?)

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62
Lokesh Verma ·

anirudh you have done most of the hardwork already!!

Notice that RHS and LHS are independent of each other! (Or are they?)

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