Colours again!

Colours in complexes are decided by the constituents of the coordination sphere, right? So why do K4[Fe(CN)6] and Fe2[Fe(CN)6] differ in colour though coordination sphere is intact?

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Parul Kohli ·

Plz anyone tell howz this.......
Thats tooooo interesting

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Akand ·

wel i think K is in +1 state while in d other cmp, Fe is in +2 state........tht may giv sum clue......... with d number of unpaired electrons.........

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

But it's only what's inside the coordination sphere that's supposed to determine colour of the complex. So what will explain this?

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Pls reply someone :)

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Pavithra Ramamoorthy ·

hey.. may be due to half filled config of Fe....

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

macchan, whatever config Fe has, IT IS NOT INSIDE COORDINATION SPHERE. So how will it affect?

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Abhishek Priyam ·

See color arises due to d electrons...
Thats why [Al(H2O)6]3+ is colorless whereas [Ni(H2O)6]3+ is green...

The coordination entities only raises energies of d orbitals and that too to different extents so due to difference in energies of d orbitals due to so called splitting of d orbitals when d electron jumps from one d orbital to other it absorbs some color so imparting color...

:)

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Pavithra Ramamoorthy ·

dats k.. abishek.. wats d solution fr d question asked???

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

in d example u mentioned,Abhishek, changes happen inside d coord. sphere. In d question, changes r happening outside it.

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Abhishek Priyam ·

:P

chemistry tha pata hi nahi chala.....
:P

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Abhishek Priyam ·

A non chemistry explanation...
:P

in second there is Iron so situation is symmetric about Fe, whichever Fe is inside coordination sphere theres no difference, so Might be there actual structure will be different as 3 Fe might be changing there positions ( as it increases entropy so favorable :P) so theres the difference...

And if not so then there will be a specific chemistry explanation, (a new exception theory)... explaining another exception

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

:D

Only, i din' understand a word of ur explanation. But that's how it's supposed 2 b isn't it? ;)

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Jokes apart here too, Abhishek ;) :D

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Abhishek Priyam ·

I can only think of this much...
[1]

Its Chemistry Yaar...

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Abhishek Priyam ·

Yeah this can be true...

Thats what is there in resonating structures- situation is not changed when electron is with one or other ..yeah but thats with a name....

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Pavithra Ramamoorthy ·

lets all together raise hands to praise chemistry....ha ha ha ...

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varun ·

K+ are usually colourless while Fe2+ are green coloured. Now in solution,

in first case - K+ and [Fe(CN)6]4- are given out. the complex has a specific colour while K+ doesn't.

In case of Fe2+ and [Fe(CN)6]4-, Fe 2+ has some colour and the complex also has some colour. So there is some difference in colour.

:P I don't know :P

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Abhishek Priyam ·

hey is "anhydrous" Fe2+ colored

but! gud! Fe2+ might be forming a complex wid water to form another color and resulting color is the vector sum of the two colors..

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

First compund has 1 F while the other has 2 F's. therefore more colour!

P.S : F -> Farbe -> "Colour" in German ;)

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Akand ·

hey aragorn..........tht joke was extremely dumb..........hehe dnt worry my ans is correct i guess.......hehe

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Thanx, Akand !

What was that abt stability of complexes, Ram? I didn't get you.

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Akand ·

wat stability ramku??????????????????? CHELATING ligands???????hehehehehehehe

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Pavithra Ramamoorthy ·

hey jus listen 2 me what i mean....

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Celestine preetham ·

ths might ve to do with charge transfer in Fe

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

BUT THE COORDINATION SPHERE REMAINS UNCHANGED. So if there is charge transfer, there will b charge transfer in both cases and so u should get the same colour. But why is it not so?

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Any ideas, anyone?

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voldy ·

here's something I think might help in the discussion .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_transfer_complex

b/w good question .thank you.

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

I didn't know ligands had interactions with counter ions as well. Won't the ligand's activity be limited within the coordination sphere?

P.S: What is b/w ?

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

Hellllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooo?
Anyone reply pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease. :_(

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Mallika ·

coloured cmpds have extended hyperconjugation .. see if this helps

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