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A weightless rod of length l with a small load of mass m at the end is hinged ar point A and occupies a strictly vertical position, touching a body of mass M.A slight jerk sets the system in motion. Frixtion is neglected and l=0.2m....

1. At any instant efore seperation, the angle made by the rod with horizontal is θ . If accl. of M is a and its velocity is v, then tangential accl. oof the small mass m is -----------------
2.The ratio M/mfor the two bodies m and m to seperate at the the instant θ=π/6 is---------------------------
3.Velocity of the mass m at the moment of seperation is -----------------

22 Answers

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Philip Calvert ·

anyone help na ???

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varun.tinkle ·

i think for the 1st time the answer to such a tough sum was thought out be me !!!!!!!!! D:
anyways as usual gr8 solution by kaymant

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kaymant ·

The velocity of m at the instant when it leave contact with the block = √gl/2

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kaymant ·

Continuation of my previous post....

The FBD of the bob m:

Since m is moving in a circle, the centripetal acceleration is supplied by components of N and mg. So we get
N\cos\theta+mg\sin\theta = m\omega^2\ell
When it leaves contact with the block, N = 0 and θ = π/6. First, at θ = π/6, we get
\omega^2 = \dfrac{g}{\ell}\cdot \dfrac{1}{1+\frac{M}{4m}}
Hence, we have by setting N = 0, we get
\dfrac{g}{2} = g \dfrac{1}{1+\frac{M}{4m}}
i.e.
\boxed{\dfrac{M}{m}=4}

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eureka123 ·

thx sir[1]

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kaymant ·

When the rod makes an angle θ with the horizontal, let the velocity of the block M be V while its acceleration be aM. At this instant, let the angular velocity of the rod about the hinge A be ω.

Since the bob is in contact with the block, the horizontal velocity of the bob must be V. Therefore
\omega \ell\sin\theta =V
Next, energy conservation gives
mg\ell(1-\sin\theta)=\dfrac{1}{2}MV^2+\dfrac{1}{2}m\ell^2\omega^2
Eliminating V gives
mg\ell(1-\sin\theta)=\dfrac{1}{2}M\omega^2\ell^2\sin^2\theta+\dfrac{1}{2}m\ell^2\omega^2=\dfrac{1}{2}\omega^2\ell^2(m+M\sin^2\theta)
which gives
\omega^2=\dfrac{2mg(1-\sin\theta)}{\ell(m+M\sin^2\theta)}
Differentiate w.r.t. t and use the fact that \omega=-\dfrac{\mathrm d\theta}{\mathrm dt}, we get the angular acceleration \dfrac{\mathrm d\omega}{\mathrm dt}=\dfrac{g}{\ell}\cdot\dfrac{m\cos\theta(m+M\sin\theta(2-\sin\theta))}{(m+M\sin^2\theta)^2}

Hence the tangential acceleration of the bob is
a_t=g\cdot\dfrac{m\cos\theta(m+M\sin\theta(2-\sin\theta))}{(m+M\sin^2\theta)^2}
Also, the acceleration aM of the block is
a_M=\dfrac{\mathrm dV}{\mathrm dt}=\ell\left(\sin\theta \dfrac{\mathrm d\omega}{\mathrm dt}+\omega \cos\theta\dfrac{\mathrm d\theta}{\mathrm dt}\right)=\ell\left(\sin\theta \dfrac{\mathrm d\omega}{\mathrm dt}-\omega^2 \cos\theta\right)
Solving for the tangential acceleration at in terms of aM and V we get
\boxed{a_t = \dfrac{a_M\sin\theta + (V^2/\ell)\cos\theta}{\sin^2\theta}}
as the answer to the first part.

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varun.tinkle ·

shortcut for relation between vel

vel of m is wl
w=d@/dt i think this should be enugh!

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varun.tinkle ·

i think after this othe rparts can be soved n !!!!!!!

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varun.tinkle ·

lets luk like unfortunately i solved the sum withouth seeing nishants sirs hint

first let the angle with the horizontal be @

thereofre we can find the relation ship between vel of M an m simple

so after finding out

mgh=1/2Mv^2+1/2mv^2

now dv/dt is tangential acc yeah!!!!!!

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eureka123 ·

Q1 is my dbt....plz help

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nihit.desai ·

correct ans kya hai ???
sriraghav can u plzz post the ans also ?? not the soln, but the just the final ans ...

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Lokesh Verma ·

Hint:

1) Write the constraint equation for any general theta
2) At any theta, write Energy, differentiate it wrt time equate to zero (conservation of energy)! This will give acceleration.

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Subash ·

ok then post ur method and ans i see now it doesnt depend on v

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Philip Calvert ·

arrey at that point acceleration diya hai......

so N = Ma
rest watever is there can go to hell.......

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Subash ·

N wouldnt be a constant

it would depend on the vel i think but yet not solved fully

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Philip Calvert ·

but what about my doubt in the 3rd post

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Subash ·

ok dunno why im feeling sleepy so early in the night [1][3]

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Philip Calvert ·

right
cmon how wud you solve anything if it goes to left

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Subash ·

i have another doubt with the question

(and this answers ur doubt i think philip)

the small mass goes to the left or right when it is jerked????

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Philip Calvert ·

hinge hai toh bottommost point hoga figure mein

first anyone answer my doubt ????[7][7]

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Subash ·

wheres this point A

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Philip Calvert ·

can someone explain why or how velocity of mass M is needed for first part... [7][7]

on ly forces that'll contribute to tangential acceleration will be mg and N na???

someone plz see this

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