my doubt hired from hcv

two blocks each of mass M are connected to the ends of a light frame as shown in figure. the frame is rotated about the vertical line of symmetry the length of each side being l.the rod breaks if the tension in it exceeds t. find the maximum velocity with which the frame may be rotated without breaking the rod

hcv soln. t=Mv2/l

what will be the velocity if masses are M1 & M2

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lalit ·

the centripetal force require for circular motion is mv2/r
so this centripetal force is provided by tension force

mv2/r=t v=√tl/m

if masses are m1 and m2 then centre of mass from axis of rotation is x=(M1L - M2L)/M1 + M2 .

t=(M1 + M2)v2/x

v=√xt/(M1 + M2)

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Jagaran Chowdhury ·

i dont have the ans .someone pls verify the ans

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varun.tinkle ·

lalit i dont know why but theres no flaw in ur answer

but lets try to solve the sum withouth cm concept

then T=m1w^2r

and T2=mw^2r

so we r getting t1 and t2 as differnet since it is a rod
pls correct me if i am wrong there can be differnet tensions so in each part we hv to check that whether t is greater than t0

it sounds absurd........ doesnt it
anyways i am trying to find a flaw in either my argument or lalits but cant so pls help out

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Ankur Jay ·

Consider one block having angular velocity W.

Then V= L W.

Acceleration towards the centre is V2L.

Multiply this by mass of the block, and you get centripetal force.

The rod breaks if this force exceeds tension.

Hence,

T = M V2L

So, V = √(L TM) is the maximum velocity it can be rotated.

W = VL = √(TM L) is the maximum angular velocity it can be rotated at.

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