hey ram i asked akand for the type of the sphere. if it is an insulating sphere then the field inside the sphere will vary and correspondingly it is a pbm similar to our problem
A body of superdense material with mass twice the mass of earth butsize very small compared oto the size of earth starts from rest from h<<R above the earth's surface. It reaches earth in time
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ram i thought the 2m mass will hit the earth . there will be collision between the two bodies . and i assumed that e wiil one for the collision
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r we getin any prize for making it the longest thread ever(:D)
for others i will try to summarise our discussion(dat is topic related discussion)
simply use centre of mass principle............
answer is √[2h/3g]..................
hey dat was nt ma question.......... let me solve it out.... wt fr a while.......
but sankar has d solution as √2h/3g.........
he too doesnt knew d way of solvin...........
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Yaar...this question is quite easy...
(h and x are exaggerated)
Using Law of gravitation and centre of mass concept [M1a1 = M2a2],
we get
acc of earth = 2g
acc of mass = g
Now, we see that both the mass and the earth will move towards their common center of mass (at 2R/3 from centre of earth)
that means the earth will move towards the mass.
Suppose at time t, the earth moves x.
thus, the mass will move (h - x) in same time t.
x = 1/2 (2g) t2........................................... (1)
=> t =√x/g
also,
h - x = 1/2 (g) t2
h - x = 1/2 (g) x/g
h = 3/2 (x)
=> x = 2/3 h
putting in (1), we get
t = √2h/3g
h is negligible doesn't mean that the mass is already on the surface of earth....
it means that g doesn't change wid height...
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hey its not that much difficult!
we must consider the center of mass!
here centre of mass with respect to earth= (2m*h+0)/(m+2m)
which gives= 2h/3
so the actual distance to be covered by the body = h-(2h/3)
=h/3!
so as h<<r so
g remains constant!
s=ut+1/2at(2)
h/3=0+1/2gt2
which gives time to reach as t2=2h/3g !
ok....!
If you're getting this considering earth as a point mass then think again. Earth is not to be considered as a point mass.
ya as the question suggest that the body is very small in sixe as compared to earth so considering both is not wrong!!