The lazy grasshopper

A tree trunk in form of a cylinder of radius R lies on a horizontal field. A lazy grasshopper wants to jump over it. What minimum launching speed will suffice for it? Assume that the air resistance is negligible and that the plane of motion is parallel to the cross section of the trunk.

9 Answers

66
kaymant ·

That's incorrect.

1
kapildhaka ·

√2(1+√2)rg

1
kapildhaka ·

consider first root sign over full expression
btwn.. nice prob. :)

1
Grandmaster ·

kaymant sir,can u plz illustrate the question with a fig.............please

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Asish Mahapatra ·

u≥17Rg2

is it correct sir?

66
kaymant ·

Asish, ur answer is not correct. #4 is the correct answer.

@grandmaster, if I give a diagram, things will be ruined. however think of a circle and a parabola on a plane.

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kaymant ·

Yeah, that's correct. However, besides calculus, you could have simply used AM-GM inequality:
\dfrac{1}{2}mv^2=mgr\left(1+\sin\theta +\dfrac{1}{2\sin\theta}\right)
\geq mgr\left(1+2\sqrt{\sin\theta \ \dfrac{1}{2\sin\theta}}\right)=mgr(1+\sqrt{2})
with equality when \sin^2\theta =\dfrac{1}{2}
i.e. \theta =45^\circ

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Lokesh Verma ·

I was wondering if there is a significance to theta being 45 degrees?

I sometimes dont rely on calculus because sin theta is only between -1 and 1... However even that can be checked by seeing equality condition[1]

Is there a better proof?

I first got lost in the parabola equations and circle equation and the condition for a common tangent etc.... Which could have given the answer but i lost my patience...

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Lokesh Verma ·

First lets see the situation in a diagram..

then we notice that at the point of contact the tangent is the same as teh direction of the velocity ..

that gives us a good start...

Now waht we do is to start our analysis from there


the velocity at that point is u and range is 2 r cos θ

\\2 r\cos \theta = u^2 sin(2\theta)/g \\2 r\cos \theta =2 u^2 sin(\theta) cos(\theta)/g \\r =u^2 sin(\theta)/g \\u^2=rg/sin(\theta)

Now we need to conserve energy to reach the bottom point of the loop
velocity at the bottom is v..
that is found by

\\1/2mu^2+mgr(1+\sin\theta) \\=1/2mrg/\sin\theta+mgr(1+\sin\theta) \\=mgr(1+\sin\theta+1/2\sin\theta)

Now minimum velocity at the bottom is found using some calculus which gives theta to be 45 degrees :),

\\1/2mv^2=mgr(1+1/\sqrt{2}+1/\sqrt{2}) \\1/2mv^2=mgr(1+\sqrt{2}) \\v=\sqrt{2gr(1+\sqrt{2})}

Well sorry Kaymant sir, i could not resist solving this one..
Took me 3 different methods and half an hour to reach the solution.. 2 failed badly.. and I loved this one.. :)

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