How was the ppr??

jh

check this

found by googling!!!

http://www.askiitians.com/IIT-JEE-2010-Cut-Offs.aspx

I shouldnt be here at this time....but couldnt stpo myself ..............

what was that on sunday ?????
was that really IIT-JEE ?????
is this what i spent 3 yrs ????is this what i dropped a yr ???is this what i left all the luxuries for 3 yrs ????is this what i spent 1000Rs on ??is this for what i bunked my school everyday ??

surely not..........looks like a dream....but everyone says its reality....if it is really true...then God save those who take JEE in the coming yrs....my sincere advice to everyone would be dont drop a yr anymore....its going to hurt u a lot....
so many prining goof ups.........it almost looked everyone in iit was sleeping all the while....even the invigilaor in our class was sleeping... :P
all the ques formula based...so was it IIT ??or some C-grade state exam ???
where was space to do all the ques formula vale ???if they couldnt provide us space toh hamein keh dete ...ghar se copy le aate :P

i dont think i need to say anything more on paper....this newspaper article sumarizs it all..surely worst JEE paper in history...

93-mark evaluation errors in JEE 2010
Aditi Tandon
Tribune News Service

Under Question
Section II, Paper I & Section IV, Paper II
Why: No provision for negative marking and more than one answer in the given choices was stated to be correct
Many questions out of syllabus
Maths questions of Olympiad, not Class XII, level

New Delhi, April 12
Marking and evaluation errors of 93 marks have surfaced in the Joint Entrance Examination (JEE) 2010 held yesterday for admission to 15 IITs, Institute of Technology, BHU and Indian Institute of Mines, Dhanbad.

Many questions have been found to be out of syllabus apart from concerns that over 75 per cent questions in mathematics were of the Olympiad level — so complicated that only a “coached” student could have cracked them in the allotted time. In that sense, the question paper ran contrary to the recent thinking in HRD Ministry that IITs should discourage coaching institutes.

Analysis of the question paper, which IITs started disclosing since 2007 under pressure from the Chief Information Commissioner, reveals problems in paper setting and evaluation in two specific sections — Section II of Paper I and Section IV of Paper II, where there’s no provision for negative marking and more than one answer in the given choices is stated to be correct. Section II of Paper I has five questions, three marks each, for each maths, physics and chemistry and is qualified by these instructions — “there can be more than one correct answers; there’ll be partial marking for partially correct answers and no negative marking for an incorrect answer”. The instruction doesn’t say the ORS sheet of a student who marks all the choices would be treated as null and void.

Naturally, with no negative marks, a candidate who darkens all the bubbles (instead of correct ones) can earn full marks without applying any knowledge. “Without negative marking, there’ll be no deduction for darkening the wrong bubbles. If all bubbles are marked, the correct answers would have been anyway covered, giving a clever student full marks without any application of mind. So, he can earn 15 marks each in maths, physics and chemistry, fetching 45 marks in the section,” admits Professor Rajeev Kumar of IIT-Kharagpur.

Similarly, Section IV of Paper II (with two questions of eight marks each) says that any given statement in Column I can have correct matching with one or more statements of Column II. Here also, there’s no negative marking and there’s a possibility of more than one correct matching. So, a smart student can match all five statements and get 16 marks (two in math, four in physics and two in chemistry) each, fetching 48 marks in all.

That brings a student’s total to 93 (45 in Section II, Paper I and 48 in Section IV, Paper II) — more than the JEE subject cutoffs announced in recent past. Such a high aggregate score would also be enough to place the student in Extended Merit List (EML), which had a cutoff of 56 last year, and even place him in the Common Merit List. Another concern is the toughness of maths questions in JEE 2010. Anand Kumar of Super 30 fame, who trains poor students to crack the JEE, told TNS today, “Over 75 per cent maths questions were of Olympiad and not Class XII level. Only tutored students could have answered these.”

Many questions were out of syllabus: like two three-mark questions on superconductivity in Section III of Paper I in physics and one three-mark question in Section III of Paper I on cubic equation in geometry.

I didnt have much brains to mark all the bubbles.....so i surely lost that 93 marks (guarantee vale)....plus math went horrible....never in next 5 yrs i can hope to crack all those math ques on my own.....so JEE dream almost over.unless some miracle is waitng to ahppen ...looking forward to aieee and bits.....par dar lagta hai...kyunki agar jee ka ye haal tha..toh sarkari cbse valon ka kya haal hoga ?? :P :P :(

and ya many will disagree with me ..i know...but i what i surely know is there will be more agreements than disagrements..

also one small thing ...
i disagree with metal
"I don't think there is any partial marking.... if you haven't got the whole answer correct, you just haven't got it."

as the iit didnt have time to elaborate the marking scheme [3]...so they will have to give us partial marks...and all those who marked all the options.....

becoz with RTI now in our hands and a court case already framed against IIT(link here http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20100409/nation.htm#1)...iit cant escape easily...

Yeah...in TOI, paper-setter from madras had said- "If all four options are shaded for a question for which there less than four correct option, then yhe candidate gets zero. To avail partial marks number of choices shaded should not exceed total number of correct choices and must include atleast one correct choice". Hopefully they'll do something sensible, nahi toh mere bhi 93 marks gaye...[2]

Section IV of Paper II (with two questions of eight marks each) says that any given statement in Column I can have correct matching with one or more statements of Column II. Here also, there’s no negative marking and there’s a possibility of more than one correct matching. So, a smart student can match all five statements and get 16 marks (two in math, four in physics and two in chemistry) each, fetching 48 marks in all.

@eureka : I did nt get the abv part of ur passage

How is 16 marks possible u'll get those only if put right option

and that partial marking i too agree with iitimcoming

@uttara..those arent my comments....those were printed in today's edition of "The Tribune"

@guruji,iitimcomin..
since they didnt explain that in detail,they cant do that.They should have elaborated the procedure ....its a case of cheating if they do that

@saket...
ya lets support a re exam..i too am disappointed at not getting my 1000rs worth..is a consumer court case applicable here ??
btw u know anyone in TV news ??atleast its better than sania-ayesha-shoaib story [3][9]

one more thing that pinches me how are they gonna divide the partial marks ???
if a ques has 2,3,4 otpions share will be 1.5,1,0.75 ???or have they fixed something ??
or have they violtaed secrecy of paper by disclosing only 3 options correct and distributing 1 marks to each option and thus cheating students ???
if thats the case..student who marked 3 options will definitely get atleast 2 marks for each question
(use some math)...taking total to 30 marks.....which isnt small amount....[16][16]

surely the anger is growing within me and many others..and i want to bang my head with wall........but is there any alternative ????

@eureka : First of all lets relax . no use burning ourselves of anger....
and yes I liked our idea of re- exam though I dont think we can do much...
maybe a nice community in orkut or facebook we can hope for atleast 2 out of the 4.72 lakhs as members :D

yes philip

i talked to a lawyer in my locality

he said iit has screwed and there is a very strong case

1) printing error in ORS
simply disturbed mentally throughout the exam
they cant play with futu of 4.5 lakh ppl
2) lack of clarity in language of instructions

this afected the statergy to attemp question

just thinking of issuing a public interest litigation

or is it all lame thing
just another excuse of not performing well ??

Re-exam Zindabad... :)

look guys wat i saw at goiit !!!!! .,,,,,,,,,someone in may wrote that he knows.........that ,,,,,(IN MAY 09),jee 2010 is going to be set by IIT MADRAS..........thats k ...bt the astonishing part is he has written that ...........maths wud be very tough and that has happened!

saw this?

Main toh chill maar raha hoon...dermi cool lagao...thanda-thanda cool-cool[3]

PJ's apart...yaar gordo, chill nahi maara jata. 3 years!!

GUYS ONE MORE THING!! FOR THE THERMOD question......how r we suppsed to knw that the guys r gona give us whether the line passes through the origin or not.....for the refractive index match the column..dint we simply do it by our eye estimation????

@ Rohit
strong point man!!