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fibonacci
·2009-11-29 06:35:25
wasnt the second one too easy to appear in an RMO :D
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-11-29 07:08:14
Seeing this paper i will be surprisd if the cut off will go below 55-60 marks in a lot of states!
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-11-29 07:17:04
4th one will be
sum of all numbers from 100 to 999 = (100+999)/2 x 900
sum of numbers will all odd digits = (1+3+5+7+9)x25x111
sum of numbers will all even digits = (2+4+6+8)x20x11 + (2+4+6+8)x25x100
Now find the answer [1]
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eragon24 _Retired
·2009-11-29 08:34:33
ohk here goes the 1st one............tats only i tried :P
it was a sitter actually :P
let teh lengths of side AB and AC be t
angle ABC = angle ACB=θ
angle ABI =θ/2
angle BAI=90-θ
angle AIB=90+ (θ/2)
now
AIsin(θ/2)=ABsin(90+(θ/2))
so AI=t.tan (θ/2)
further BC=2tcos(θ)
since BC=AB+AI
2tcos(θ)=t+t.tan (θ/2)
2cos(θ)=1+tan(θ/2)
2(2cos2(θ/2)-1)=1+tan(θ/2)
2(2sec2(θ/2) -1)=1+tan (θ/2)
tan (θ/2)=n
2(2(1+n2) -1)=1+n
solving u will get n=√2-1
so tan(θ/2)=√2-1=tan(45/2)
θ=45
so angle BAC=90°
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sahil sharma
·2009-11-29 18:21:37
I dont think this one was very tough...some over-excitedness ......mindlessness....folishness....ensured i didnt get all the 6 Q's....BTW can any1 tell what is (was) the cutoff in delhi region for class Xth students??(if its any different from XIIthies)
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-11-29 18:26:00
sahil i dont think the cuttoff will be different
It will be the same ...
but if you have got so many corrects, you should scrape through.
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jishrockz dey
·2009-11-29 21:29:37
i think the answer of ques no. 6 is three pages...... and in ques no. 4 i 2 got 370775.......
anyone solved ques no. 5??? i proved the first part.......
i am expecting around 40-42...... is that gonna be sufficient????
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Devil
·2009-11-29 23:35:28
2nd part of q-5 was quite easy....u trivially need a slight application of PHP like this :-
If a+b≤1, then at least 1 of a and b must be less than half....rest can be done by arguments of simple symmetry.....
I managed 4 sums and a small amt of the 2nd one as well.....(It was simple application of quadratic reciprocity)....Shall this be enough for a 12th grader?
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cspurandare
·2009-11-30 00:22:46
what is the solution to 6.............in maharashtra the rmo is always tougher so can there be a retest
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Lokesh Verma
·2009-11-30 00:27:36
no there would not be a retest ever!
There are schedules for selection to INMO and all.. so i will be very surprised..
and RMO's are supposed to be not very easy :P
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fibonacci
·2009-11-29 05:49:43
my solution to 3
3^{2008}+4^{2009}=(3^{1004})^2+(2\times 4^{1004})^2+4(3^{1004})(4^{1004})-4(3^{1004})(4^{1004})
=(3^{1004}+2 \times 4^{1004})^2-4(3^{1004})(4^{1004})
=(3^{1004}+2 \times4^{1004}-2\times 3^{502} \times 4^{502})(3^{1004}+2 \times4^{1004}+2\times 3^{502} \times 4^{502})
it is sufficient to show
3^{1004}+2 \times4^{1004}-2\times 3^{502} \times 4^{502} \ge 2009^{182}
or 3^{1004}+2 \times4^{1004}\ge 2009^{182}+2\times 3^{502} \times 4^{502}
now i will show 4^{1004}\ge 2\times 3^{502} \times 4^{502}
or 4^{502}\ge 2\times 3^{502} or \left(\frac{4}{3} \right)^{502}\ge 2
\left(\frac{4}{3} \right) \approx 1.3 so \left(\frac{4}{3} \right)^4 \approx (1.6)^2>2
so it is sufficient to show 3^{1004}+4^{1004} > 2009^{182}
3^{1004}+4^{1004} > (2187)^{143}+ (4096)^{167}
applying AM-GM
(2187)^{143}+ (4096)^{167} > (2187 \times 4096)^{165}>(2009)^{310}>(2009)^{82}
as the smaller of the two factors is greater than 2009^{82}, both the factors are greater than 2009^{82}. hence proved
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fibonacci
·2009-11-30 01:23:52
my solution to 2
a^2-3a-19=a^2-10a+7a+51-70=(a-7)(a+10)+51
we also observe a-7 \equiv a+10\ mod(17)
so from here we see (a-7)(a+10) is either a multiple of 289 or a non multiple of 17
if it is a multiple of 289, adding 51 will make it a non multiple of 289
if it is a non multiple of 17, the status wouldnt change
i also got ans to 1st one 90 degrees
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bagla93
·2009-11-30 02:27:00
I got my answer to first as 90 degrees
fourth - 370775
sixth - 1 or 3 or 5
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sahil sharma
·2009-11-30 08:06:48
god...expecting RMO selection is not a good thing...i mean if its in ur kismat..it'll come...if not..tough luck...althou i think i got 3.5-4 Q's correct..i dunno what the examinors think..BTW i'm in Xth.....so if the examinors are liinent....i wud deff get thru..rest as they say....wud be history :) :p
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Devil
·2009-11-30 09:10:36
There's a very easy and short soln to number 1.....I'll post it soon.
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Devil
·2009-11-30 09:28:04
Join BI and CI.
\frac{AI}{sinx}=\frac{CI}{sin2x} where angle ICA=x.
Also \frac{AB}{sin2x}=\frac{BC}{sin4x}
AI=\frac{CI}{2cosx}
CI=\frac{BC}{2cosx}
We thus have
AB=\frac{BC}{2cos2x} & AI=\frac{BC}{4cos^2x}
Applying AB+AI=BC, we have a quad in cos2x, so x turns out to be 2212deg.
Thus angle BAC=90^{0}...
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fibonacci
·2009-12-01 01:32:58
shorter soln to 4
sum of torn pages=101
note sum of 1 leaf(2 consecutive pages)=4n+1 for some n
101 is of the form 4n+3
so we conclude no of torn leaves are of the form 4k+3
so possible outcomes 3,7,11,...
consider 7 leafs ie 14 pages
min sum we have is (14)(15)/2=105>101
so ans is 3
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Devil
·2009-12-01 06:04:39
4) Page nos are of the form (2a_i-1,2a_i)
where each ai is natural.
If the number of pages torn be n then we have 4\sum_{i=1}^{n}a_i=101+n
If n> 3 then (suppose n=7) \sum_{i=1}^{7}a_i=27
But \sum_{i=1}^{7}a_i\ge 28 hence a contradiction for all n>3.
Thus \boxed{n=3}...
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Devil
·2009-12-01 09:24:15
In the 2nd sum.....what propmpted that split fibonacci?
I mean it's difficult to hit at that directly in an exam........how did the sum hint at that?
BTW are u sure abt ur soln - i mean u are confident with ur logic?
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Dr.House
·2009-12-01 09:47:09
detailed solutions can be seen here :
question 1:
http://www.mathlinks.ro/viewtopic.php?p=1695934#1695934
question 2:
http://www.mathlinks.ro/viewtopic.php?p=1695941#1695941
question 3:
http://www.mathlinks.ro/viewtopic.php?p=1695943#1695943
question 4:
http://www.mathlinks.ro/viewtopic.php?p=1695944#p1695944
question 5:
http://www.mathlinks.ro/viewtopic.php?p=1695949#1695949
question 6:
http://www.mathlinks.ro/viewtopic.php?p=1695946#1695946
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fibonacci
·2009-12-02 04:01:13
yes i'm confident with my solution. i thought if 1 could express the polynomial as a multiple of 17 + a multiple of 289(or a multiple of not even 17)
you can say it was more of a guesswork :) first i added 17 then 34 the 51. i was lucky with 51
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Devil
·2009-12-02 09:07:42
ok.....
Any other methods for that 2nd sum?
Heard 1 of my friends applied quad. reciprocity.
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cspurandare
·2009-12-03 23:49:00
guys would i get through in maharashtra if i got 2 complete 1 half..................would i get any marks for the first one if i took that each page is numbered just once ike both sides of a page have the same number...........reply soon im nervous