CARBOCATION STABILITY

ARRANGE FOLLOWING CARBOCATRION IN DECREASING ORDER OF STABILITY

I THINK IT SHUD BE 2>4>3>1

AM I CORRECT?????

65 Answers

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parnika -1 ·

2>4 >3>1

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parnika -1 ·

this is da rite ans........

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

@pranika
did u find this answer in some book of urs.............??????

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skygirl ·

ofcrs in 3, there is hyperconjugation which is absent in 1.

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metal ·

2>4>1>3
I think.

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

i think 2,4 ,1,3

1
JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

REASONS FOR ORDER OF 1 AND 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1
JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

@ANIRUDH AND METAL

AS FAR AS I THINK IT WUD BE 3>1 COZ OF HYPERCONJUGATION IN 3
......DO U AGREE?????????

1
JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

anirudh

reply kar bhai?

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

bhai bhai, i don't know any complex terms like hyperconjugation and all....but i think 1>3 because, even though the catbocation itself is not tertiary, it can become more stable by means of a methyl shift.

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metal ·

It is probable-------- I had thought of inductive effects only,
I'll have to rethink--------
[ Isiliye mujhe Organic Chemistry pasand nahin-------- kuchh bhi ho sakta hai :-( ]

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

i only thought of inductive effect while posting the first reply....but now also thinking interms of methyl and hydride shifts

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metal ·

Anirudh, by methyl shift, 1 will change to a 2ndary carbocation.
Similarly, 3 can also change to a 2ndary carbocation by hydride shift.

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

yes, that's why i am reluctant...

maybe 3 will win over 1 because of lesser steric hinderance!!

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

are yaar...y r u thinking of methyl shift etc.

i simply mean to say

1.that in 3 we will have hyperconjugation as C-H bond is adjacent to positively charged carbon.this will disperse positive charge on carbocation and 3 attains stability.

2.whereas in 1no such hyperconjugation is possible as there is no C-H bond adjacent to positively charged.

so due to above two reasons i think 3>1

hope after reading above two reasons u agree with me!

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

reply to my xplanation in #13.
do u agree??????????

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skygirl ·

2>4>1>3 .

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sriraghav ·

1>3 acc to inductive eff..
therefore 2>4>1>3

1
sriraghav ·

yes... u can see our empress has answered.... no more word to say!!

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

PLZ REPLY

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

so which will win over the other?

HYPERCONJUGATION vs INDUCTIVE EFFECT

VENUE: http://targetiit.com/iit_jee_forum/posts/carbocation_stability_8716.html

MATCH ORGANISER: JOHN CENA

MATCH REFREE: ANI

WINNER??

1
JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

see i think 3>1

REASON:inductive effect vanishes after three bonds.........

now even if you look at 3 and 1 from inductive effect point of view,the inductive effect in both should be nearly equal(coz although one has three methyl groups for inductive effect but they r at a distance of two bonds).so,inductive effect in 1 and 3 is nearly same.

now,in addition to inductive effect there is hyperconjugation in 3.

so clearly 3>1.

hey skygirl plz check ma explanation????????

1
JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

@sriraghav

check #20.

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ANKIT MAHATO ·

bhai log
paglao mat

1
ANKIT MAHATO ·

yahi toh organic chem ka kharabi hai ... ki u have to use the correct concept at correct place ... which even my sirs are not able to do .. so chill out .. don't waste ur time in this question !

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ANKIT MAHATO ·

but john ... i think u r correct :)

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

hey skygirl plz reply to #20

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metal ·

Kya koi iska definite answer de sakega-------- after all, it's ORGANIC CHEMISTRY------- kuchh bhi ho sakta hai.

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

@metal
read #20

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

n i think my xplanation in #20 is correct.so,definite ans. seems to be
3>1.

if i m wrong correct me!!!!!!!

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