hey u have to take this order of dipole moment
CH2Cl2 >CHCl3 >CCl4 as C is sp3 hybridised so tetrahedral structure i will post the exact value obtained it is JEE asked probably in 02/03
WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING HAS GOT HIGHEST DIPOLE MOMENT
(1) CH2Cl2
(2) CHCl3
(3) CCl4
FIND OUT THE ANSWER WITH REASON
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arey i din tell its planar...
it IS tetrahedral ....
but even then,,,, dun u all think, in ch2cl2 the moment will be in a particular direction only
but in chcl3, it will be there in two opposite directions ...
so moment will decrease...
yes skygirl there is a basic problem in ur approach for calculation of dipole moment in CHCl3 upon calculating like u r doing the dipole moment of CH3Cl will be lesser than the CH2Cl2 but it is not
the the free redical formed by the species breaking carbon and hydrogen is more and more stablised as no of chlorine atoms increasing by p pie -d pie making the structure planar and increasing the bond angle between Cl atoms so the D.M decreases as the cl atoms increases
my God! ...
this kinda of thots r faar above my reach in chemistry ... am sorry bhaiya :( but i din get you ...
no skygirl this is very common q for iit jee and the only reason which can explain the D.M of the system is extent of hyperconjugation which is surely is not included in iit jee but even ur calculations were wrong taking all angles as 109 degree there is some mistake in visualising the object in three degree must go through the solid state chapter especially tetrahedral and octahedral void system
it will enhance ur visuals in 3 degree
skygirl u are rite as far as the preparation for JEE is concerned !!
gagar.iit ....whats wrong in it ?....
sorry unique if i have offended u ... just trying to give a broader view
gagar bhiaya is given right reason da. It's better to know the perfect concept than something wrongly , just bcoz we think it's out of syllabus . I feel we should not pertain ourselves to some xxam , but we should try to know why exactly it happens so . the concept is more important than the problem . no harm meant buddy . sry if it hurts .
very sorry to blabber all wrong things...
thanx to the ppl who corrected it ..
yup skygirl ...but both of them are tetrahedral but in ch2cl2 it is quite directional !
but in case of chcl3 , as three chlorine atoms pulls the electrons , the resultant force is distributed in a irregular manner
hence,its ch2cl2 :)
@22
the the free redical formed by the species breaking carbon and hydrogen is more and more stablised as no of chlorine atoms increasing by p pie -d pie making the structure planar and increasing the bond angle between Cl atoms so the D.M decreases as the cl atoms increases...............................Hmmmmmmmmmmm
then according to above explanation CCl4 wud be almost planar.................but i don think it is so???????????
CH2Cl2 ..
look at the 3D geometry
and note that Cl atom pulls electrons whereas H atom gives electrons ...
@22
the the free redical formed by the species breaking carbon and hydrogen is more and more stablised as no of chlorine atoms increasing by p pie -d pie making the structure planar and increasing the bond angle between Cl atoms so the D.M decreases as the cl atoms increases...............................Hmmmmmmmmmmm
then according to above explanation CCl4 wud be almost planar.................but i don think it is so???????????
YUP THE THING WRITTEN THERE I HAVE POSTED IN MY POST ITSELF SRI
CH2Cl2 >CHCl3 >CCl4
due to repulsion between chlorine atoms , the Cl-C-Cl bond angle increases and hence the cos{bond angle} decreases as a result of which the dipole moment as a whole decreases because dipole moment involves additive use of the cos value !!!
you cannot consider the cis or trans things but the actual tetrahedral structures have to be dealt with !!!
both of them have a definite dipole moment then !!
but owing to some serious pulling from Cl ...i guess its CHCl3
hmm achcha CHCl3 has a tetrahedral structure ...so it has better symmetry than CH2Cl2 !!
then it has to be CH2Cl2 !!
i thought it is CH2CCl2 ..thats why i asked for the cis n trans ! :D
sorry reading mistake !
specify whether CH2Cl2 is trans or cis
coz trans isomer will have zero dipole and cis wud have a definite
and for CCl4 its zero !
so here CHCl3 !!
CCl4 = 0 D
CHCl3 = 1.03D
CH2Cl2= 1.62 D
This is of the Order CH2Cl2 > CHCl3> CCl4