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Avik
·2009-11-14 08:28:15
One of the major confusions...sometimes they take the functional carbon as alpha (remember the Beta-Elimination during Dehydrohalogenation??),
n sometimes the carbon nxt 2 the functional carbon as alpha (as in alpha-beta unsaturation etc.)...
Even i'm confused here...
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Ankur
·2009-11-14 09:17:57
arrey.. sahi to hai.. alpha carbon is the carbon directly attached to functional group. Here fx group: OH . alpha H : R2 CH OH . Whats wrong in that?
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Gone..
·2009-11-14 20:33:06
no alpha carbon is carbon attached to carbon attached to func gr.
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Ankur Loonia
·2009-11-14 22:24:18
arre i think that's in the case of carboxlic acidis. the ans. given in the buk is correct with respect to alcohols
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Pritish Chakraborty
·2009-11-15 04:05:00
Its absolutely fine. Secondary alcohols give blue coloration in Victor-Meyer's test, and the alpha carbon is the carbon attached to the functional group here. The Greek numbering is a relative system. It depends relative to WHAT we are numbering the chain. Here it is relative to the -OH group.
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Gone..
·2009-11-15 05:51:36
Pritish what your saying is what writers like Morrison n Boyd say,,what i am saying,writer like Finar and Solomon follow..this is an everlasting confusion,,for this q is best to go for ans as 1.
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Avik
·2009-11-15 21:16:56
Ohk..... something clicked at last......
The Alpha Carbon is the 1st Carbon directly attached to the Functional Group.
So if -OH is the func. group, then the 1st carbon will do the job.......
But when v have a compound like this- RCH2CH2COOH, the alpha corbon is the underlined one (Kyunki func. group is COOH & the CH2 carbon is the 1st carbon attached directly to it)
P.S. I now realise tht Ankur was saying the same thing, though i didn't get it at tht time... :p
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Gone..
·2009-11-15 22:02:07
ya it will be like that only then. [1]