kinetics??

For a first order reaction 2A→Products what is [A] as a function of time? Does that coefficient 2 makes a difference?

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Abhishek Priyam ·

dx/dt=k(A0-2x)
dx/(A0-2x)=kdt

integrating we get...

(A0-2x)=A0e-2kt

[A]=A0e-2kt

Now....theres 2 in power...

1357
Manish Shankar ·

are bahut logon ka bhala bhi kiya hai inhone

33
Abhishek Priyam ·

Yippie........

i got it........

IN RC mukherjee and Arihant also this is given wrong and has generalised nA->B

as k=2.303/nt*log(.......).......

But at last i got it........

Bhagwaan tumhe kabhi maaf nahi karega RCM and arihant...

1357
Manish Shankar ·

yeah now you got it

33
Abhishek Priyam ·

ok so for first order rkn, rate of dissosiation of A is proportional to [A] not rate of rkn is proportional to [A}.????

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Manish Shankar ·

you wrote 1/2(d[A]/dt) as the rate of dissociation of A
which is not true because it is -d[A]/dt

33
Abhishek Priyam ·

:(

But by differeenciating earlier by taking that 1/2d[A]/dt....
i mean

(-1/2)d(A0-2x)dt.............

gave that...

i'm not getting any mistake in earlier steps.....

i think all steps are mathematically correct.........right from the def of rate of rkn....

but may be.........

my chemistry "god knows"....

1357
Manish Shankar ·

rate of dissociation of A is -d[A]/dt
rate of dissociation is k[A]

1357
Manish Shankar ·

The expression you are getting
dx/dt=k[A]

here RHS is the rate of disintegration of A

while LHS is the rate of disintegration of 2A

33
Abhishek Priyam ·

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[7]

1
skygirl ·

no....
coefficient changes molecularity... not order...
n order depends upon reaction rate.. i mean it has nothing to do wid balanced reaction...

(correct me if wrong..)

33
Abhishek Priyam ·

Ok tell me where i'm wrong...

2A → B
(A0-2x) (x)

rate=-d[A]/2dt .................................(i)

rate=k[A]1.......................rate law expression
rate=k(A0-2x) ..........................(ii)

from (i) and (ii)

(-1/2)d[A]/dt=k(A0-2x)
(-1/2)d(A0-2x)/dt=(A0-2x)

contd........

1
skygirl ·

yup...
have got another point,,

take an eqn 2A ->P
here at time t=0, [A]=a, [P]=0
at time t=t, [A]= a-x and [P]=x/2
but rate only depends upon reactants....
so it depends only on (a-x) n not coefficient....

62
Lokesh Verma ·

dA/dt=-kA

d2A/dt=-k2A

so both are same right?

1
skygirl ·

yup u r right.....
GOD KNOWS.......
i will check...

33
Abhishek Priyam ·

Ok...........

but derive karne par to 1/2 aata hai....

1
skygirl ·

let othres comment.. :)

62
Lokesh Verma ·

Dude NCERT is always correct. I have not known it to have even one sngle mistake ever!

and anyway sky gave a perfect explanation to the thing...

33
Abhishek Priyam ·

some book say:

k=2.303/2t*log(......)

but in NCERT 1 question is solved as
k=2.303/t*log(........)..........

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