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Lokesh Verma
·2008-12-13 04:16:58
But these are not constant.. that is what you have to prove!!
I dont see how that is so obvious! May be that i am missing some much simpler trick that is obviousl to you not me!!
but i dont think that is very likely!
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Lokesh Verma
·2008-12-13 08:27:37
Think over it ramkumar!
Your probability of anyone occupying that seat is misplaced... Read my solution above.. it is on similar lines!
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Pavithra Ramamoorthy
·2008-12-13 08:21:16
is it not??? except d 100th guy someone has to take it kno....
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Lokesh Verma
·2008-12-13 08:17:30
p(anyone takin seat 1)=p(1st person taking seat 1)*p(2nd person takin seat1)*....p(99th person taking seat 1)?????????
is this true???
Thnk over it!
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Pavithra Ramamoorthy
·2008-12-13 07:31:12
i ll explain u how i guessed it...
p(100th person taking 100th seat)=p(anyone occupying seat no 1)
because only if seat 1 is occupied, 100th person wil get 100th seat..
p(anyone takin seat 1)=p(1st person taking seat 1)*p(2nd person takin seat1)*....p(99th person taking seat 1)
=(1/100)*(1/99)*(1/98)*.......(1/2)
=1/100!
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Pavithra Ramamoorthy
·2008-12-13 05:25:24
i ll explain u how i guessed it...
p(100th person taking 100th seat)=p(anyone occupying seat no 1)
because only if seat 1 is occupied, 100th person wil get 100th seat..
p(anyone takin seat 1)=p(1st person taking seat 1)*p(2nd person takin seat1)*....p(99th person taking seat 1)
=(1/100)*(1/99)*(1/98)*.......(1/2)
=1/100!
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Akand
·2008-12-13 05:13:34
so.......if d first person takes 5th seat.........then till 4 everything is ok...but d 5 th guy can take any seat after tht ......if he takes d first seat then ther is no prob....the ques is finishd..........but if he takes sum other seat......then tht guy also will shift again......this process may continue untill sum1 sits in d 1st seat..........
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Akand
·2008-12-13 05:11:38
w8.......... i hav a confusion now........u may be right.........d xth person sits sumwher else.........he can sit anywhere........ and then d problem starts again...........ya its a tough and long problem......
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Akand
·2008-12-13 05:10:06
hey ramku hw is tht possible dude...........d first guy only sits randomly.........all others sit according to their numbers except tht person whose seat is occupied by d first person....he sits sumwher else...
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Pavithra Ramamoorthy
·2008-12-13 04:53:43
is it 1/100! (one/100factorial)???
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Pavithra Ramamoorthy
·2008-12-13 04:38:35
byah. if person 1 sits in seat no 100 then thres no possibility fr person no 100 to get hs seat...if person 1 sits somewhere else at x.. then every one upto x-1 ll get their alloted seats..... then d actual xth person ll take some other seat randomly.. prob of xth person choosin seat no 1 is 1/100-x ... after dat illl telll u in a while... plz try to bring as equations.....
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Akand
·2008-12-13 04:20:58
ya ive realised now........it isnt tht obvious after all......... for example........ wat if d third guy enterin d plane sits in d 4th seat???? i havent taken tht into consideration.....ive just assumed tht every passenger is a good boy/girl and theyll sit in their places and if sum1 occupies his place hell sit in d next one........hehehe
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Akand
·2008-12-13 04:13:45
wel wat i said was........ d person cannot sit in seat 1 nor in 100.......so there are 98 possibilities left(favourable outcomes)........its already given tht he doesnt sit in d 1 st seat..............so 99 overall outcomes...
so prob=98/99........................MIGHT BE WRONG..........
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Lokesh Verma
·2008-12-13 03:55:19
Akand I did not get your explanation!
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Akand
·2008-12-13 01:30:50
So nishant, we basically excluding the first seat(seat no.1)..... and d first person shudnt sit in d 100th place....... so ther r 99 seats(excludin 1st one) .... so prob is 98/99....
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gagar.iitk
·2008-12-13 01:26:58
i am getting 1/2 as the ans plz check ur ans
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Lokesh Verma
·2008-11-02 20:31:26
Swetha, i have given a very detailed solution.. pls read both my posts.. the solution i have given is in 2 parts
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Swetha Kaushik
·2008-11-02 15:36:41
i have not understand fully.
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harshad kulkarni
·2008-11-02 01:57:56
ya thanks nishant sir
that was gr8 explaination
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Lokesh Verma
·2008-09-30 02:22:56
suppose
P(k) is the probability that passenger no k sits on seat no 1
so, P(1)+P(2)+....P(100) =1 ..... (i)
again
P(r)={1-P(1)-P(2).... - P(r-1)} × 1/(100 - r + 1)
Also, P(1)=0 {it is already known that person 1 doesnt sit on seat 1}
P(2) = {1 - 0} × 1/99 = 1/99
P(3) = {1 - 0 - 1/99} × 1/98 = 98/99 × 1/98 = 1/99
P(4) = {1 - 0 - 1/99 - 1/99 } × 1/97 = 97/99 × 1/97 = 1/99
...
thus, by continuing, each P(i) = 1/99 ( 2<=i<=100 )
Thus P(100) = 1/99
Thus, probability that person 100 sits on seat 100 is 1-1/99 =98/99
Hence 98/99
I hope this solution is clear.
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Lokesh Verma
·2008-09-30 02:13:34
The question seems very tough. But i think akhilesh's answer is correct.
He has not given any explanation. I will try to do that.
We should note that for the 100th passenger to sit at seat 100, it should mean that no passenger should sit on seat 1 in between! if someone sits of seat 1, everyone after that will sit on his seat!
This is the critical step to understand!
How this happens. Note: at any time, suppose, r passengers are in the aircraft, then only one seat less than equal to seat no r is unoccupied! This is a bit tricky to understand.
Suppose that passenger 1 sat on seat "k". So passengers 2 to "k-1" sat on their respective seats!.
So if no of passengers is less than equal to k-1, only one seat less than seat no k is unfilled (namely seat 1)
So when passenger no k comes, he will sit on some seat other than "k". If it is seat 1, then no seat less than equal to k will be unfilled!
If he sits on another seat, say seat L, even then only one seat less than equal to k is unfilled (namely seat 1)
now you can keep going this way forever. You will realise that if n passengers have entered the plane, at maximum, one seat less than equal to seat no n is unfilled. That too seat no 1!
So if someone sits on seat 1, we are done. So we have to find the probability of someone sitting on seat 1 before 100th no passenger comes!
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Vyom Parashar
·2008-09-30 02:03:37
hmm.. seems to be tough one!
how will this be solved.?