2nd December 2008

A Long bus has to be passed from the top to the wider road on the side horizontally.

The width of the road at the top= a
The width of the road at the side= b

Find the longest bus that can be made so that it can turn.

Assume: Bus is of zero width!

19 Answers

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Lokesh Verma ·

how does just lying on the envelop give that answer :O

I mean it could well be that it falls in the envelope but there is a longer rod that can pass... or that this rod may still not pass!!

I mean how can u be that sure!

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Lokesh Verma ·

good work :)

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akari ·

well here is the proof by calculus
as already said by bhaiya its not a glorious proof as given by ith power

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injun joe ·

How to do this by maxima and minima??
I am getting a slightly different answer. :(

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

were do u get this geometrical sketch pad stuff? i saw it in my school math lab yesterday n i was mighty impressed.

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Lokesh Verma ·

i understand that dude :)

what i meant what that

dont you think that we wud be better off solving it as a maxima and minima problem..

(I dont take away anything for your thought procss) but i think it will be much tougher doing the same in the exam hall!! (I mean gettting the equation of this curve! than solving the question by the less "Glorious" method!)

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ith_power ·

the equation i used is actually equation to an astroid.
ref.= http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Astroid.html

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Lokesh Verma ·

One thing..

how did u get the equation of the envelope? (Just for the completeness of the proof :)

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Lokesh Verma ·

Yes wonderful :)

gr8 soln..

I was stuck with my maxima minima :)

good work :)

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ith_power ·

check out the picture please. if any rod larger than DH tries to pass the corner it would get stuck at 'K'. isn't it?

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varun ·

hmm... is it √2 (a+b) ?

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ith_power ·

i think answer should be (a2/3+b2/3)3/2, Vibhav is right..
explanation:
equation of envelope of a falling ladder of lenght l(two sides one on a vertical wall, another horizontal ) is (a2/3+b2/3)= l2/3, since, given a,b is a point on the envelope, (a,b) must satisfy given equation.

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Lokesh Verma ·

Could you give more explanation? to your answer abhinav?

take the case when a=b.. what should be the answer?

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vibhav roy ·

Ans (a2/3+b2/3)3/2 am i right

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Lokesh Verma ·

I din say that! :)

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Rohan Ghosh ·

is my answer incorrect

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Lokesh Verma ·

prashant's guesss was very very good... but not the right answer...

Anyone who cna confirm if any of these is the right answer?

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Rohan Ghosh ·

let (b/a)=t3

then answer =
(a√(1+t2))+(b/t)(√(1+t2))

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Prashant Shekhar ·

how about 2√a2+b2?

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