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If equation xn - nxn-1 + a2xn-2 + a3xn-3 + ......an-1x + (-1)n = 0 has n positive roots, then least value of n for which a2 + a3 is negative, is ?

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swordfish ·

Any one?
The answer given is 6.

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Ricky ·

( x - 1 ) n = x n - n x n - 1 + n C 2 x n - 2 - n C 3 x n - 3 + . . . . . . . . ( - 1 ) n

Clearly , this equation has " n " positive roots .

Comparing co - efficients ,

a 2 = n C 2 ; a 3 = - n C 3

We want , | a 3 | > | a 2 |

Or , n C 3 > n C 2

Or , n > 5

Hence , the least value of " n " is 6 .

Now , a justification -

We see that the product of the roots of the original equation is simply " ( - 1 ) n " , which indicates that the roots must be of the form ,

" a , 1a " , " b , 1b " , " c , 1c " , 1 , " d , 1d " . . . . . . . . and so on .

But then , the sum of the roots = [ a + 1a ] + [ b + 1b ] + 1 + ....... ≥ 2 + 2 + 1 + ....... > 1 + 1 + 1 ....... > n

Even if there is only one pair of roots " a , 1a " , and the rest are all " 1 " ; then also -

Sum of the roots = [ a + 1a ] + 1 + 1 + 1 ........ ≥ 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 + ......... > n

Hence , all the roots must be " 1 " .

That is why I applied the binomial theorem and compared co -efficients .

Note - ( a + 1a ) ≥ 2 ...........For all " a > 0 " - This is easily verified by AM - GM inequality .

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Hari Shankar ·

Ricky, your justification isnt right. If the roots are like 6 , 1/2, 1/3, you will still have product of roots=1

A less torturous way to get there is:

Let r_1, r_2,...,r_n be the positive roots.

Now, we are given that r_1+r_2+...+r_n=n

Then, by AM-GM

\frac{r_1+r_2+...+r_n}{n} \ge \sqrt [n] {r_1r_2...r_n} \Rightarrow r_1r_2...r_n \le 1

Equality occurs when r_1 = r_2 =...=r_n=1

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Ricky ·

Hmmm , quite right Bhatt sir , really big mistake on my part .

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Shubhodip ·

As pointed above all the roots are equal .

Now , by AM≥GM

a2=\sum{}rirj ≥ (-1)n C(n,2)

and a3 = \sum{}rirjrk≥ (-1)n C(n,3)

In both cases equality will hold

so we have to find smallest integer n for which

C(n,3) > C(n,2) by inspection n = 6

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Shubhodip ·

A doubt

If a polynomial has n equal roots , should we say it has n roots or it has a root of multiplicity n ?

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Hari Shankar ·

valid doubt that. maybe they should have just said all roots positive.

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swordfish ·

Thanks to every1!!

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