differential equations

let y=f(x) and y=g(x) be two continuos functions satisfying f(x+y) =f(x) +f(y) - 8xy for all x,y ε R and g(x+y)=g(x) + g(y) +3xy(x+y) for all x,y εR also f'(0)=8 and g'(0)=-4 then find f(x) and g(x)

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Abhishek Priyam ·

No it is really clear..

Diff wrt x we get...f'(x+y)=f'(x)-8y
now wrt y we get f'(x+y)=f'(y)-8x

so f'(x)+8x=f'(y)+8y

So f'(x)+8x= constant...

Now its all clear...

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Abhishek Priyam ·

Actually Nishant Bhaiya..

My method works as long as given eqaution is symmetric in x and y :P

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Abhishek Priyam ·

Nishant bhaiya ka answer galat hai :P in that g(x)

My "Priyam's diff method" gave right answer without calculation mistake...

:P

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skygirl ·

bhaiya, in ur second post (9.12 a.m.) ... 3rd line..
y the sign b4 3x(x+y) term became minus?

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Abhishek Priyam ·

But above both f(x) and g(x) have terms like that of xy and g(x) also have x2y and it worked :P

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Lokesh Verma ·

priyam your method will work as long as the functions dont have terms of the kind xy or xy2

look back at all those questions u solved.. ;)

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Abhishek Priyam ·

But i got g(x)=x3-4x as the answer....

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Abhishek Priyam ·

No considering y as a constant... :P

and answer is correct

it is my own method of solving these and had worked for all such problems not a single one has escaped..

I don't know if method is right or wring but it gives answer :p

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Lokesh Verma ·

where is dy/dx???

if you are taking partial derivative then also there is a mistake ;)

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Abhishek Priyam ·

And this method requires no fitting...
:P

Only it should be differentiable and should contain x and y... i.e. 2 variables

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Lokesh Verma ·

f(x+y) =f(x) +f(y) - 8xy

substitute x=y=0, we get f(0)=0

f(x+y)-f(x) =f(y)/y - 8x
y

f(x+y)-f(x) ={f(y)-f(0)}/y - 8x
y

take limit y-> 0

f'(x) = f'(0) - 8x

f'(x) = 8-8x

f(x) = 8x - 4x2 + c

f(0)= 0 gives c=0

hence f(x) = 8x - 4x2

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Lokesh Verma ·

I repeat what one of my teachers once said (not to me!)

"What is obvious to you might not be obvious to me"

He is a brilliant Mathematician :)

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Abhishek Priyam ·

Give me a pink for 3 line solution... U got many lines :P

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Abhishek Priyam ·

Clearly for f(x)

f'(x)+8x=8
as f'(x)+8x=constant

Now solving this we get

f(x)=8x-4x2

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Anirudh Narayanan ·

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Lokesh Verma ·

lol.. yeah i "pinked" my posts..

none of u did.. so i thought it wud be a nice idea to :)

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Subash ·

wonderful solution nothing could be more fitting

11
Anirudh Narayanan ·

You've given urself two pink backgrounds!

Brilliant, Nishant bhaiyyah! I'm lovin' it

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Lokesh Verma ·

g(x+y)=g(x) + g(y) +3xy(x+y)

substitute x=y=0, we get g(0)=0

g(x+y)-g(x) =g(y)/y - 3x(x+y)
y

g(x+y)-g(x) ={g(y)-g(0)}/y - 3x(x+y)
y

take limit y-> 0

g'(x) = g'(0) - 3x(x)

g'(x) = -4 - 3x2

g(x) = -4x - x3

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