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Q1. y=sin^-^1(2x\sqrt{1-x^2}) then dy/dx = (Find answer by trigonometric substitution)?

My attempt:
Let x=sinθ
Then the given expression translates to y=2θ = 2sin-1x
So, dy/dx = 2/√1-x2

Let x=cosθ
Then the given expression translates to y=2θ = 2cos-1x
So, dy/dx = -2/√1-x2

Why such discrepancy?

Q2. \int \frac{dx}{(3sinx+4cosx)^2}

18 Answers

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Devil ·

Accordingly, i put tan2x=sec2x-1....So integrand turns out to be......
secx(sec2x-1)2dk, where tanx=k......
finally it becomes ∫(1+k2)1/2.k4dk......

Now?

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eureka123 ·

I found a similar question searching in some books...So not 100% of my original work
\int \sec^3x\tan^4x dx
Now,\tan^2x=\sec^2x-1
=>\int \sec^3x(\sec^2x-1)^2 dx
=>\int \sec^3x(\sec^4x+1-2\sec^2x) dx
=>\int \sec^7xdx+\int \sec^3xdx-2\int \sec^5x dx

Can you finish it from here?

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aieeee ·

sir, if it involves nything out off iit-jee syllabus , then no need.

thnx sir fr informing.

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kaymant ·

Are you sure that this is the integral you require. The answer will involve something called the Catalan's constant.

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aieeee ·

plzzzz.... solve dis :
∫(0 to 1) 2(tan-1 x)² dx ( tan-1 x = arctanx )

1
aieeee ·

Ya,got the approach.i'm continuing frm what soumik did.

I = ∫(1+k2)1/2.k 4 dk...... now,put integration by parts.

(1+k2)1/2. k5/5 - ∫(1+k2)-1/2.k . k5/5 dk

I = (1+k2)1/2. k5/5 - 1/5 ∫ [ t6 / √(1+t2)]

I = (1+k2)1/2. k5/5 - 1/5 ∫ [(t2)3+1-1] / √(1+t2)

I = (1+k2)1/2. k5/5 - 1/5 ∫√(1+t2) ( t4+1-t2) [ got by putting formula of a3+b3 ]

I = (1+k2)1/2. k5/5 - 1/5 [ ∫x4 √(1+x2) + ∫√(1+x2) - ∫t2√(1+x2)

now, I = ∫x4 √(1+x2). SO,NOW BRINGING I/5 TO THE L.H.S. ,we cn easily solve the integral.

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Asish Mahapatra ·

anyone got the answer of #8 yet?

11
Devil ·

Can u plz elaborate the full soln? Actually this is not a very common way, that's the reason i'm so interested....(In case u think the other way....)

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Debotosh.. ·

then......
the expression looks like :
∫z√(z2+1) dz
......for this the linear factor (z) is expressed in terms of the derivative of the quadratic factor (z2+1) together with a constant as ,,,,,z=λ{d/dz(z2+1)} + μ...we find the values of λ and μ by equating coefficients of similar terms and then put it the integrand !!!!
..............THAT BECOMES A LOT SIMPLER !!!!!

11
Devil ·

For the 2nd one, we can use the universal substitution - that simplifies it a lot, followed by partial fractions....

See the integral turns out to be 2∫1+t24-4t2+6tdx
hopefully the rest can be done....

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Debotosh.. ·

the golden rule in such cases : ∫ tanmx secnx dx

(1)if the power of secx is an even positive integer put z= tan x and then integrate
(2)if the power of secx is NOT an even positive integer then see the power of tan x
(a) if the power of tan x is an odd positive integer then put z=secx and then
integrate.
(b)if the power of tan x is an even positive integer put
tan2x=sec2x-1 , then substitute z=tanx and integrate
(3) if the power of tanx is zero and the power of sec x is an odd positive integer>1
then use integration by parts !!!!

so, for the question given here : rule (2)-(b) applies ......rest can be done easily !!!!

11
Devil ·

This should do it....
If it is broken in sinx and cosx, it is seen that cosx is raised to an odd power, thus take sinx =t, so it becomes ∫t4(1-t2)-4dt.....Apply By-parts now....
take du=t2
v=-16(1-t2)^3, meaning dv=tdt(1-t2)^3

Now it can be done...(I hope)

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Asish Mahapatra ·

thx bhatt sir and kaymant sir, soumik and debotosh

Q3. \int sec^3xtan^4xdx

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kaymant ·

Asish, the expressions for Q2 obtained in #2 and #3 will differ by a constant. Remember the C appearing in the indefinite integration. (I forgot to put that.)

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Hari Shankar ·

The discrepancy arises because

1. \sin^{-1} (\sin(x) ) = x is true iff -\frac{\pi}{2} \le x \le \frac{\pi}{2}

2. The expression given by you for \frac{dy}{dx} is not entirely correct

When you put x = sin θ, choose the domain of θ as \left[-\frac{\pi}{2}, \frac{\pi}{2}, \right]

You can verify that

y = 2 \theta when -\frac{\pi}{4} \le \theta \le \frac{\pi}{4}

= \pi - 2 \theta when \frac{\pi}{4} \le \theta \le \frac{\pi}{2}

=-\pi - 2 \theta when -\frac{\pi}{2} \le \theta \le -\frac{\pi}{4}

Now, you can see that

\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{2}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} when x^2 \le \frac{1}{2} and

= -\frac{2}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} when \frac{1}{2} \le x^2 \le 1

You can verify this by directly taking derivative without substitution. Just remember there that \sqrt{(1-2x^2)^2} = 1-2x^2 \ \text{when} \ x^2 \le \frac{1}{2} and

2x^2-1 \ \text{otherwise}

Likewise when you use x = cos θ, there are more cases that need to be taken, so its not worthwhile.

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Asish Mahapatra ·

ok . for Q2. #2 and #3 give two methods. So accordingly they should give the same integral upon expansion. But upon equating the two results that I obtained it doesnt come as a universal relation as 0=0 or like that
I get just two values of x for which the integrals are equal to each other.

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kaymant ·

For the second one just note that

3\sin x + 4\cos x = 5\sin(x+\alpha)

where \tan \alpha = \dfrac{4}{3}
As such the integral

I = \int \dfrac{\mathrm dx}{25 \sin^2(x+\alpha)}

=-\dfrac{1}{25}\cot(x+\alpha)

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Debotosh.. ·

for (2) :
divide both numerator and denominator by cos2x , replace sec2x(if any) in the denominator by(1 + tan2x)and then put tan x = t,,,,,, so that sec2x dx = dt

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