LIMIT

Here goes my first question in TargetIIT :):):):):):)

Find the following limits -

1 > lim [ ( n ) !n n ]

2 > lim [ ( n - 1 ) !n n - 1.5 ] e n

In both cases n tends to infinity .

21 Answers

1
Maths Musing ·

Actually the answer's zero.

1
Maths Musing ·

STIRLINGS APPROXIMATION -- pretty interesting thing though :o :o !!

1
Maths Musing ·

WOWWWW !!!!!! How did Gallardo do the generalisation , i mean the question ?????? When I fist saw the qs, , I was left completely dumbstruck !!!

Gallardo bhai , KUDOSSSSS

1
Shankar C ·

I think

1-(n-1)n
is not equal to ∞ as n →∞

since, 1-∞∞ = 1-1 =0

is this correct

1
Che ·

yup...tahts correct...

so u know much of higher real analysis....

gr8 :)

1
Ricky ·

Rearranging , the givrn term =n ! 2007 ! n2007( n + 2007 ) !

={ nn n2007 } { 2007 ! } { √2 pi n } { e - n }( n + 2007 ){ n + 2007 } { e - n - 2007 } { √ 2 pi ( n + 2007 ) }

={ 2007 ! } { n n + 2007 } { .......}{ ...... } = { 2007 ! } { [ n + 2007 ] / n } n + 2007 { e - n - 2007 + n } √[ n + 2007 ] / n

={ 2007 ! }{ 1 + [ 2007 / n ] } n + 2007 { e - 2007 } { √ 1 + [ 2007 / n ] }

= 2007 !e - 2007 e 2007 = 2007 ! , after putting the limit .

1
Che ·

@gallardo

first of all r u a student....?

ur ways doesnt seem ur r student becuz if i know correctly stirling approximation is neither in any olympiad topic and obviously not in jee.....so how u know abt it...?

btw how will u evaluate this using stirling approx. ;)

\lim_{n\to\infty}\;\;\;\left(\frac{n!\;\cdot\;n^{2007}}{2008\cdot2009\cdot2010\cdot2011\cdot2012\cdot\;\;\;\cdots\;\;\;\cdot (2007+n)}\right)

goodluck :)

24
eureka123 ·

that approx has been used a lot of times here..[1]
so dont worry [6]

1
Ricky ·

OKKK , here is the solution ---

There is something called STIRLING'S APPROXIMATION , which states that for large enough n , we are allowed to write

n ! = n n e - n2 Î n

or , ( n - 1 ) ! x n n n e n = √2 Î x n . 5

or , ( n - 1 ) !n n - 1 . 5 e n = √2 Î

or , k = √2 Î ( suppose )

Hence , limn--> ∞ k = √2 Î

Actually , the expression that I have written for stirlings approximation is approximately correct , and the real expression is pretty big and involves big - O notation of Gauss and many other complicated things which is again very tough to grasp at once - but the result won't differ anyway . If you want to know more , just use WIKIPEDIA

1
harsh jindal ·

i think 2nd answer is 1
{but i am only 95% sure }

1
Maths Musing ·

Atleast that is what I think -- havn't been able to prove yet .

49
Subhomoy Bakshi ·

i hope [.] doesn't mean greatest integer function??????

49
Subhomoy Bakshi ·

infinite!!

still unsure tho!!

49
Subhomoy Bakshi ·

no answer is surely 0 govind

49
Subhomoy Bakshi ·

checking my basics!! lim (ex-1)/x = 1 right?? or is this wrng???i mean is it ex-1 or ex-1???
x->0

49
Subhomoy Bakshi ·

2nd one apparently is either 0 or infinite!! not got any strong proof yet tho!![2][2]

49
Subhomoy Bakshi ·

that is clear!!the LOT tougher thing!![1][1]

29
govind ·

Ans 1 \frac{n!}{n^{n}} = \frac{n(n-1)(n-2)...1}{n^{n}} = \frac{n^{n}{(1-\frac{1}{n})(1-\frac{2}{n})(1-\frac{3}{n})...}}{n^{n}} = 0..at.. x - infinty

49
Subhomoy Bakshi ·

\frac{n!}{n^{n}}=\frac{n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)(n-4)....3.2.1}{n.n.n.n.n.....n.n.n}=\frac{n}{n}.\frac{n-1}{n}.\frac{n-2}{n}......\frac{3}{n}.\frac{2}{n}.\frac{1}{n}

lim n->∞ => 1/n->0...hence the result!![1][1]

49
Subhomoy Bakshi ·

1) ans is 0

49
Subhomoy Bakshi ·

:)

Your Answer

Close [X]