relations and functions.....thoda urgent help kar do....

very small doubt from ncert

its from misc exercis last question

Q number of binary operations on set {a,b} is??????

25 Answers

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Lokesh Verma ·

priyam I think you are right.

I dont know where this question came from but answer has to be 23

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Celestine preetham ·

thanks ankit once again i had done a typo ;)

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ankit mahapatra ·

to define a binary operation , we have to define the values the operation takes for all values (x,y) where x,y belongs to S(it is a set)

this means that n*n operations have to be defined.

Each of the operations can take n values.

So total no. of operations = n^n^2

Therefore answer would be 16 operations.

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Celestine preetham ·

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Abhishek Priyam ·

:D

well i got it...
i was wrong...
:P

It is asked no of operations..

so
a*b=a/b
a*a=a/b
b*a=a/b
b*b=a/b

Now no of binary operations = no of ways of selecting one from each line...

=2*2*2*2=16
[3]

Let one biary operation be #
so a#b=a
a#a=a
b#a=a
b#b=b

If any one line's result is changed then it would be other binary operation..

like wise other 15 combinations...

Sorry for confusing u all.. [3]

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Lokesh Verma ·

haha..

no celestine, trust me i take u as among one of the most serious aspirants here..

I know that you have disagreed to ame a couple of times... but that is one reason I like you..

specially in 0.999999999999 and the paradox of probability ;)

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Celestine preetham ·

wat i gave is a well established formula from rd sharma
so u can trust me on this

i know its hard for nishant sir to trust me after my dubious reputation of posting wrong ans [3]

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Celestine preetham ·

fallacy in thoughts of priyam and nish :

u r neglecting relative premutation of the combos

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Lokesh Verma ·

even if it is associative!

i think priyam has listed them correctly too!

AxA->A

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Celestine preetham ·

the binary table for set of n has n2 elements

now each box in that table is filled in n ways so

tot bin op = nn2 wen n is 2 its 16

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Celestine preetham ·

no priyam is wrong :( its 16 i had an exp for that but forgot now

thinking........

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KR ·

[12]binary operation can be associative too..........

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Abhishek Priyam ·

Par NCERT me ans 16 diya hai,, :(

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Mani Pal Singh ·

24=16

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KR ·

binary operation tho set {1,2}x{1,2} me hotha hai..........

isme 2*2=4 elements hai

in binary operation 2 operands at a time

therefore no. of binary operation= 22*2=16

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eureka123 ·

can anyone help????????????

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Abhishek Priyam ·

a*a=a
a*a=b
a*b=a
a*b=b
b*b=a
b*b=b
b*a=a
b*a=b

i am not getting any more than these...

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eureka123 ·

mera answer 4 aa raa hai........[2][2]...but ans is 16[7][7]

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Abhishek Priyam ·

are mere ko 8 lag raha hai...

Set A {a,b}

binary fn from AxA->A

_ * _ =_

three places two choice for each...

so 2*2*2=8.. ??[7][7]

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eureka123 ·

@ mani binary functions 4 kaise hote hain?????????

hum koi bhi binary function define kar sakte hain.......................compositon ,modulus,log,exponent.........etc. etc......

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MATRIX ·

hmmm....[1][1][1]..........

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MATRIX ·

hey vivek here
n=number of Elements inside the set

here set={a,b}

so we have 2 integers..............

so No of Binary Operations Possible== 222

==16

Got it Vivek!!!!!

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Mani Pal Singh ·

bhai 4 binary function hi to hote hain na........

1
Vivek ·

can anyone explain why 22n?

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MATRIX ·

hmm i told na eureka this should me of the form.......i told.........

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