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second ionization enthalpy of Cl>S.why?

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Manmay kumar Mohanty ·

http://www.webelements.com/periodicity/ionisation_energy_2/ check here it given the values what i have already mentioned

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cute_cat ·

hmm.. just searched a little and found that..halogens do not usually show even oxidation states...and such compounds are often thermally unstable

nw this may be the reason

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cute_cat ·

but there is one more thin that supports the fact that Cl should hav lesser one...

that Cl has more electrons, and it is going to cause more inter electronic repulsions, and so it should be easier to remove electron from Cl

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cute_cat ·

@ subhomoy...i checked for the second ionization only

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rickde ·

only thing is i see that Chlorine does not want half filled.... so doesn't go to +2......n Sulphur also hates half filled ..........

but HALF FILLED means MORE STABILITY

maybe this doesn't apply to 3p.....

maybe it involves the fact that some transitions in electron r more favored than others.....

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Manmay kumar Mohanty ·

if that's the reason i thnk the reason which i mentioned has a strong priority to wat rickde has mentioned......................

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rickde ·

but tats no solid reason........ keep the discussion on....

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SURYA RAMKUMAR ·

BINGO!!!!!!!!
hats off to u rickde[1][1]

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SURYA RAMKUMAR ·

BINGO!!!!!!!!
hats off to u rickde[1][1]

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Akshay Pamnani ·

@ rickde
nice observation

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rickde ·

well i'd like to say something.....

chlorine always has -1, +1, +3,....
no +2.........it looks like chlorine for some reason does not want to be in +2 ......[12]

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Manmay kumar Mohanty ·

kaunse book main hai ye...........
is any explanation given ??

I do thnk sulpur ka hi jyada hoga
since after removal of one electron frm outer most shell of sulpur , it attains half filled p-orbital stability state but not Chlorine

after removal of one elctron frm outer shell configurations r
Sulpur - 3p3
chlorine - 3p4
so if u wanna remove another electron then chlorine will easily do that to attain stability of half filled orbital but sulpur will do that with difficulty as sulpur is already in a stable state....

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Subhomoy Bakshi ·

lets try and explain!

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Subhomoy Bakshi ·

umm........par kyun!! aakhir kyun??

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SURYA RAMKUMAR ·

dude subho.its pearson's not a useless book.we cn be sure of data given there n NET confirms it too[1]

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Manmay kumar Mohanty ·

i fund that the second ionization energy values for Sulpur is 2252 KJ/mol while that of Chlorine is 2298 KJ/mol strange ??[7]

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Subhomoy Bakshi ·

@cute_cat: i think u have checked for first ionisation..i think![1][1]

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SURYA RAMKUMAR ·

so pearson is right as always [1][1]

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cute_cat ·

this is really confusing....

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Pritish Chakraborty ·

Agree with manmay...sulfur attains stability due to half filled shell in +1 oxidation state. Chlorine attains that in +2. It should be that way, ideally.
But..ionisation enthalpy would also depend on some other factors isn't it?
Go across a period, ionisation enthalpy increases due to the addition of an electron in the same shell(effective nuclear charge increases). So S has less IE than Cl.

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cute_cat ·

even the sources on the internet say the same....sulfur has a little less

S-2251kJ/mol
Cl-2297.3kJ/mol

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SURYA RAMKUMAR ·

it is given in pearson publication[1]well i also thought exctly same!but dunno y book says so?

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