FRCTIN

HCV(FRICTION)

EXERCISE QUES NO.29

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

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plz post the solution

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

virang see ur chatbox

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

See your chat box

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

virang
m not getting regarding the direction of friction b/w the upper and lower block.

can u xplain it in a bit detail???????

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

At the beginning v=v rite.
But there is relative motion between the block and ground and therefore friction acts on the lower block
This results in reduction of velocity and therefore relative velocity of the upper block is more than the the lower block

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

At the begining this will be the case
But The friction of the ground and the lower block is higher than The friction of the upper block and the lower block and therefore
Therefore Relative velocity of upper block with respect to lower block is more

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

Therefore Relative velocity of upper block with respect to lower block is more

y????????

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

my method is right
In this sum both the block given velocity v
Therefore Relative velocity of upper block with respect to lower block is more therefore the friction is backward and this will result in a forward force in lower block (newton's third law)

Got it ?

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

no friction on upper block will be in forward dir.

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

See the friction between the upper and lower block will provide a force in backward diretion on the upper block and forward direction on the lower block
Thats wat i think may be wrong

And therefore it results in 2μ(M+m)g- μmg/2M this

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

din get
Deceleration of M is 2μ(M+m)g- μmg/4M

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

Distance travelled by the lower block = S
Therefore distance by the upper block has to S + L = D
For lower block

Force of friction = μ(M+m)g
Forward push due to reaction of For upper block
Force of friction = μmg/2
Deceleration of M is 2μ(M+m)g- μmg/2M

S = vt - μ(M+m)gt2/2M
For upper block
Force of friction = μmg/2
Deceleration for m = μg/2

D = vt - μgt2/4
D - S = l
vt - μgt2/4 - vt + μ(M+m)gt2/2M =L
t2[-μg/4 +2μ(M+m)g-μmg/4M] =L
t2[(-Mμg + 2μMg +2μmg-μmg)/4M] = L
t2 = 4LM/μg(M + m)

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eureka123 ·

post the question dear......

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

plz give the solution to #12

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

plz post the solution of HCV(friction) q-31 of exercise

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

THANK U SIR[1] [3]

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Lokesh Verma ·

The direction of friction is in "along" the plane of the wall.

The thing is that it is opposite to the resultant of 15 N force and Mg

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JOHNCENA IS BACK ·

PLZ CLEAR THE DIRECTION OF FRICTION IN THAT DIAGRAM

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Lokesh Verma ·

click the link in the post above :)

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Lokesh Verma ·

[url=http://targetiit.com/iit_jee_forum/posts/friction_any1_63_63_63_774.html]Friction problem from HC Verma[/url]

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Lokesh Verma ·

This one is solved earlier here

let me find the solution..

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

I took it in the horizontal plane since the force is horizontal

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

F = mg
F = 2*10
F = 20 N
N = 15N
f = μN
f = 0.5*15
f = 7.5N
Total force against 40N = 20+7.5 = 27.5N

Yes the block will move in the upward
Direction
Resultant upward force = 12.5N
tan θ = 12.5/15
tan θ = 2.5/3
θ = tan-10.8333

But it looks that the question is not framed properly

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virang1 Jhaveri ·

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