Gravitation ------ very tough for me to solve

Maybe these are too tough , maybe very easy , but I would definitely appreciate a good solution of these problems ----

Find

1 > The gravitational field on a point mass due to an infinitely unstreachable thread of density p

2 > The grav. field on a pt. mass situated at a height a / 2 from the center of a square plate whose each side is a.

3 > The gravitational compression on a layer of atmosphere situated at a distance r from the center of the earth.

4 > As gravitational and electrostatic vector fields both obey inverse square of distance law ,

then can we apply the same elactrostatic laws to gravitational fields too ? If yes , then how can

we define gravitational flux of a body ? Again , if two or more vector force fields vary with a

certain term equally , then would the laws that are applicable in any one of the force fields , be

applicable to others also ? Moreover , why would this happen , if it happens at all ?

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xYz ·

short cut to problem 1 ,without integration we can do like this

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Maths Musing ·

Hey xYz , you have done a blunder .

Gauss's law states that ,

\oint_{}^{}{} g . dS = - 4GmÎ

where g stands for the gravitational flux vector , not the field force .

There is yet another mistake , which is why you are getting 4 in the numerator .You have
messed up in choosing the direction of dS vector.

I finally learned Gauss law , so I found out the answers .

Hope everyone tries this one . Else I have to do it myself

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Arka Halder ·

xyz is now correct about the 1st question.
g is the gravitational field vector and ∫g.ds is the net flux enclosed.
Gravitaional flux is the number of field lines passing through a given area normally,equal to g.s .
4. yeah,as the gravitational and electrostatic forces are conservative and obey inverse square law,they shall have similar laws.
thats why gravitational and electric field,potential for different bodies(solid sphere,shell etc) are totally similar.

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Maths Musing ·

Yup , I was wrong abt the flux thing , but why aren't you trying the 2nd and 3rd one ?

Oh I forgot , yes xYz your answer is correct , but can you explain why you have taken the surface area as 2pi r l , instead of 2 pi r ( l + 2 ) , ( not that it's my doubt ) ?

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Maths Musing ·

Arrey yar , very good sol. diya , aur ek kyon nahi ho raha ?

hint. -- how many usable gaussian surfaces can you think of ?

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Maths Musing ·

I don't know why you can't do the second one . USE A GAUSSIAN CUBE . oh god !!!

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Maths Musing ·

The point mass is at the center , so all the six faces exert equal forces.

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Maths Musing ·

ok , can we do it in this way , stretch the point mass into a infinitely long thread of even less mass ,
then we can do it

though the procedure given before could be used , once I get flux of the whole cube I can get the field of the cube too , then divide by six

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xYz ·

soumya if divide by 6 ,u will get flux passing thr one face
that u will,,, i told u b4 ....
but please let me know how will you find the field at point stright above the centre of square plate using this flux!!!!!!

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