MECHANICS PROB : SIMPL.....

PL ATTEMPT DA FIRST QUE.....

ANS : "B" not a)

25 Answers

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Lokesh Verma ·

after that find the potential energy of the sphere at slight displacement and then as all of u are suggesting ..

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tapanmast Vora ·

LOL...... Yeah.......

Oh my.... i took the COMs for rign n disc!!!!!!!!!!

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nihit.desai ·

yeah...tis b only ne...find the change in PE from unstable to stable equilibrium, equate it to change in roational KE about the axis of rotation (horizontal, passing through geometric centre of the compound sphere)...the answer is just waiting to be calculated !

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Abhishek Priyam ·

ooohh.... u have taken COM wrong...

its R/2 for hollow and 3R/8 for solid hemisphere

what u are taking 2R/pi
3R/4pi
are of half ring and disc... :P

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Abhishek Priyam ·

where does pi comes...

answer is clearly ..(15g/32R)1/2 whats the problem here.. :O

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tapanmast Vora ·

HMMMM.....

IF MY COMs are correct i dont think ther cud b any mistake in the foll steps as i did them abt 3 times now....

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Philip Calvert ·

valid point tapan ......

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tapanmast Vora ·

Sir, pl. notify me if ther is any mistake ( ther has 2b some otherwise answer does not match as i hav the factor Î on LHS which is not ther in the RHS so no question of getting cut and the answer does not hav a factr Î ) [2] [2] [2] [2] [7][7][7]

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tapanmast Vora ·

COM of solid sphere = 4R/3Î -----> 1
COM of HOLO sphere = 2R/Î -----> 2

EQN 2 - EQN 1

2R/3Î ....

THER4 ∂(COM) = 2*(2R/3π)

THER4 ∂PE = (4R/3Π)*g*(2m)

equating da change in PE to gain in rot. KE => 8mRg/3Π= 0.5 * (16/15)(mR2)(ω2)

now we need to make ω the subject.....

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Lokesh Verma ·

tapan i think you can take the average of the center of masses of the two part

one hollow hemisphere

second solid hemisphere

2/pi was the answer for one of the parts probably .. (not sure though!)

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Philip Calvert ·

rest i think is simple should i solve it ....

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Philip Calvert ·

yeah thanx i missed out on the fact that masses were equal so the COM would be above its lowest position

you know this habit of mine of taking some "obvious" assumptions [6]

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tapanmast Vora ·

16/15MR2 as written in ur earlier post......

∂PE = ∂(COM) * g * 2m.....

sir can u help me find the xpression 4 ∂(COM) as masses of both spgheres as well as their volumes r SAME.

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skygirl ·

yeh kaisa question hai !! [12]

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Lokesh Verma ·

yeah you have to.. so i want trying to find I (moment of inertia)

That because it will have pure rotation at the bottom most poitn..

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tapanmast Vora ·

Yeah thnx PHILIP!!!!

and da ans 2 ur que....
"bcoz every body in Universe endeavours to attain minimum P.E. when free to do so"

so a slight displacement is enough for the sphere to be set into motion which definitely leads to complete inversion!!!!
So its ωmax can b found out....

[1]

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skygirl ·

yeah exactly philip...

that is my question also...

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Philip Calvert ·

but it is written "slightly displaced " [7][7]

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Abhishek Priyam ·

well ω is max when KE is max... when cahnge in PE is max... which is in case of complete inversion..

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tapanmast Vora ·

I know to find the PE gained by using change in COM,

but the big que is wether in toally inverted postn wud the angular freq be max?????
How can u be sure of dat???

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tapanmast Vora ·

AB can u xpand pl...

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Abhishek Priyam ·

yeah u have to do same PE =KE gained..

Just take there COMs...

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tapanmast Vora ·

Sir,

I thot we wud hav to solve by equating the change in PE upon complete rotatn with the rotational energi gained.... [7]

Can u pl. solve it till the end ??? pl....
I cudnt carry on frm wer u left....

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skygirl ·

sry ...

actually i din undersatnd the question...

i mean wat did it ask...

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Lokesh Verma ·

this is a good question..

Find the CM of the compound sphere...

and then also the I along that axis.. that will be

2/3MR2+2/5MR2

16/15MR2

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