work energy in rotation

A disc of mass 2M lying in vertical plane is free to rotate about a fixed horizontal axis passing from its centre. A particle of mass M is tied to a string of length 2R and another end of the string is attached to the disc as shown in figure. If particle is released from shown position, then the angular speed of the disc as string becomes taut will be
(a)√2g/R
(b)√g/2R
(c)√g/4R
(d) none of these

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Asish Mahapatra ·

guys is this that difficult?

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skygirl ·

arey..

conserve energy about the point owhere the thread is attached...

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Lokesh Verma ·

arrey sky.. not energy.. but angular momentum :P

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iitimcomin ·

itz b) i suppose!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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skygirl ·

ans none of these ???

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Lokesh Verma ·

First find the velocity of the mass in the downward diirection

then find the angular momentum.. MVr about the center of the cylliner

then conserve angular momentum about the center.

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Lokesh Verma ·

yes me too getting none of these :)

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skygirl ·

no i din mean conserve energy ....

i meant work-energy theorem...

1/2Iw2 = mgR

am i wrong ??!#@$

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skygirl ·

then , w = √2g/3r

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Asish Mahapatra ·

the ans. is given (b)

@nishant bhaiyya: how can we conserve angular momentum? there will be a net torque at the point on rim when string becomes taut. So, torque ≠0

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skygirl ·

but bhaiya...

wat is V in ur mVR ??

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Lokesh Verma ·

what I are u using..

I wud rather give this solution...

1/2mv2=mgR (It will gain a height of R not 2R)

so v=√2gR

now we conserve angular momentum about the center of the cylinder..

So MvR=M√2gRR=(2m)R2/2. ω+ M(ωR)R

2gR=R. ω+ (ωR)

So ω=√g/2R

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Lokesh Verma ·

yes u are right.. my mindgame failed... :)

writing it down got me a more correct answer :)

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Asish Mahapatra ·

pls reply to my above post

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Lokesh Verma ·

about the center there is no external torque because we are using the center as the hinge..

The torque due to gravity acts for avery little time.

It is the same reason why we conserve linear momentum even when there is mg acting as an enternal force.

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