9th_November_2008

Easy if u have seen. Try this even if u havent. It is a good one to know :)

x+y+z=6
all are positive reals!

Find the minima and maxima of

a2/x + b2/y + c2/z

where a, b, c are integers!

Really Sorry I made a mistake in this question (Sky and Sharat.. )

This was the expression i gave initially.. a/x + b/y + /z

The explanation is there for this question.. but not a proper proof with me.. may be someone would want to take a cue from the proof of this question....

15 Answers

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skygirl ·

A.M. >= G.M.
so, (x+y+z)/3 >= (xyz)^1/3
=> xyz = (6/3)^3 =2^3=8.

now,,, 1/3 * (a/x + b/y + c/z) >= (abc/xyz)^1/3
=> 1/3 * (a/x + b/y + c/z) >= (abc)1/3/2
=> (a/x + b/y + c/z) >= 3(abc)1/3/2

hence min value .... 3(abc)1/3/2.

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Lokesh Verma ·

hmm..

good one.. :)

neone else with some other method.. that may be just a tad smaller?

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varun ·

x + y + z = 6

xyz will be maximum when x=y=z.

Therefore , xyz is max when x=y=z=2.

Now the given exp = (yza + xzb + xyc)/xyz

It will be min when xyz is max.

therefore substitue x=y=z=2.

The exp becomes - (a+b+c)/2

So that is the minimum value of a/x + b/y + c/z

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Lokesh Verma ·

so ur answer is (a+b+c)/2??

no dear! unfortunately not..

uve made a mistake in assuming "It will be min when xyz is max. "

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varun ·

I meant the given exp becomes a+b+c/2 and can be used in A.M > = G.M and get the above answer .. but I think most of those steps were unnecessary..

Until xyz = max at x = y = z = 2 would have been enough i think.

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Lokesh Verma ·

See the question above..

"Really Sorry I made a mistake in this question (Sky and Sharat.. )

This was the expression i gave initially.. a/x + b/y + /z

The explanation is there for this question.. but not a proper proof with me.. may be someone would want to take a cue from the proof of this question...."

btw ur answer is not correct still!

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skygirl ·

A.M. >= G.M.
so, (x+y+z)/3 >= (xyz)^1/3
=> xyz = (6/3)^3 =2^3=8.

now,,, 1/3 * (a2/x + b2/y + c2/z) >= [(abc)2/(xyz)]^1/3
=> 1/3 * (a2/x + b2/y + c2/z) >= (abc)2/3/2
=> (a2/x + b2/y + c2/z) >= 3(abc)2/3/2

hence min value .... 3(abc)2/3/2.....

isnt this right??? ...coz it doesnot matter if we are squaring the integers .... i will still be an integer only...

(correct me if wrong...)

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Lokesh Verma ·

why not try AM_HM..?

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Lokesh Verma ·

@sky.... .is this the best possible solution?

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skygirl ·

no no... i didn thot only... i jus' asked u whether the previous one wid few modifications will be right or not.... i didn think abt this prob till now (sorry) but i iwll do it widn today.. definitely...

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Lokesh Verma ·

ok ok dont worry :)

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Lokesh Verma ·

Hey I had thought that this is not the toughest of the problems.. I expected a few ppl to have done this one!

:(

Still keep trying...

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Lokesh Verma ·

Bad bad.. i thought someone whould have come up with a solution to this one!! I had put tougher problems which you guys solved!

x/a+x/a+... a times + y/b+y/b+... b times.+ z/c+z/c+.... c times =6

AM= 6/(a+b+c)

HM =(a+b+c)/{ a/x+a/x+... a times + b/y+b/y+... b times.+ c/z+c/z+.... c times}

HM=(a+b+c)/{a2/x + b2/y + c2/z}

Apply AM-HM inequality to these terms,...
AM>=HM

6/(a+b+c)>=(a+b+c)/{a2/x + b2/y + c2/z}

6{a2/x + b2/y + c2/z}/(a+b+c)2>=1

{a2/x + b2/y + c2/z}>= (a+b+c)2/6

Done :)

This is a good trick to have in your sleeve :)

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skygirl ·

:(
had thot but didn get so... :(
obviously hav not thot the way u solved....

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navyasri veluri ·

how did u get HM as a+b+c/a^2+b^2+c^2

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